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Hello dear members,
This nice dagger found as gift from a very good friend in my collection. But we both are unsure about it's exact origin. While I think that it could be a Mexican so called Scorpion dagger there are some features on this dagger which are untypical for such a dagger, for example the spanish notch at the blade. ![]() It's 15" overall with a blade from 10". All comments are very welcome! Thank's in advance, Detlef |
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Hi Detlef:
A very unusual knife which, I think, has some mixed styles to it. Taking the blade on its own, it has both a notch and a bolster at forte, and a prominently curved blade with concave edge. Every Spanish colonial knife that I have seen with a noch like this has not had a guard on the hilt. Also, the presence of both a notch and a bolster suggest to me that this knife started out with a simple hilt and no guard. Also, the guard just does not seem to fit aesthetically with this blade. I believe the hilt was added later (is it silver?). The three-part hilt with stacked sections either end of a central plain section is consistent with Spanish work from several places, including Spain (although the stacked sections would be uncommon in this configuration). The (silver?) finial on the end of the hilt also reminds me of some Ilokano examples. I think you have a Spanish colonial knife from the Americas that has been rehilted at some later time--where and when is hard to say. Ian |
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Like usual very good observations! I agree complete with you that the spanish notch in conjunction with the little guard look weird and out of place. I've added pictures from some Mexican Scorpion daggers I've found on the net, all examples seems to have a guard so it seems likely IMVHO that when the knife in question belong to this family of knives that the guard is original and the manufacturer has given this knife an unusual visual appearance. ![]() Quote:
Regards, Detlef |
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Another observation, while a ricasso seems to be typical is a narrowed down ricasso like by my example more seldom. At last by the shown examples.
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The differences I can see from the daggers harvested from the web are that the curve of the blade is more extreme and the profile of the blade next to the ricasso is quite different.
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Special the second point let me ask my main question! ![]() Best, Detlef |
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