Marking on the dagger blade

Evgeny_K · 14th February 2018, 04:28 PM

Gents,
Please help to id this marking if it possible.
Blade looks like remains of European dagger.
Thank you in advance,
Evgeny

mariusgmioc · 16th February 2018, 01:11 PM

I guess nobody recognizes the marking.

fernando · 16th February 2018, 06:20 PM

Such a pity, Evgeny. It is so clear and no one recognizes it.

Helleri · 1st March 2018, 08:51 PM

All I can say is that the shield shape looks like a Victorian wedge. And the arrow with the line looks like a simplified anchor.

cornelistromp · 2nd March 2018, 10:41 AM

with the short tapered tang and the remains of a rivet, is this probably about the blade of a plug bayonet, 17thC.

one could try to find the mark in this category.

best,
jasper

fernando · 2nd March 2018, 04:42 PM

That is surpising news, Jasper ... at least to me

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According to authority R.D.C. Evans and also to a few plug bayonets i have and had myself, always we have a pin-tang system, which runs full length of the hilt. Very, very rarely we have a push tang, where a short tapered tang passes through an aperture in the crossguard, the grip added by hammering it onto the remaining tang length, secured by friction or by gluing, a popular table-cuttlery method, visibly lacking in strenght. In any case, no rivets taking place ... at least that i have heard of

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14th February 2018, 04:28 PM	#1
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	Marking on the dagger blade Gents, Please help to id this marking if it possible. Blade looks like remains of European dagger. Thank you in advance, Evgeny Attached Images

2nd March 2018, 04:42 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	That is surpising news, Jasper ... at least to me . According to authority R.D.C. Evans and also to a few plug bayonets i have and had myself, always we have a pin-tang system, which runs full length of the hilt. Very, very rarely we have a push tang, where a short tapered tang passes through an aperture in the crossguard, the grip added by hammering it onto the remaining tang length, secured by friction or by gluing, a popular table-cuttlery method, visibly lacking in strenght. In any case, no rivets taking place ... at least that i have heard of . . Last edited by fernando; 2nd March 2018 at 08:08 PM.

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16th February 2018, 01:11 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	I guess nobody recognizes the marking.

16th February 2018, 06:20 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Such a pity, Evgeny. It is so clear and no one recognizes it.

1st March 2018, 08:51 PM	#4
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chino, CA. Posts: 219	All I can say is that the shield shape looks like a Victorian wedge. And the arrow with the line looks like a simplified anchor.

2nd March 2018, 10:41 AM	#5
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	with the short tapered tang and the remains of a rivet, is this probably about the blade of a plug bayonet, 17thC. one could try to find the mark in this category. best, jasper