Indonesian (?) dagger for ID

mariusgmioc · 14th September 2016, 09:43 PM

Hello,

A friend asked me to help him identify this presumably Indonesian dagger.

Any help is most welcimed!

kai · 15th September 2016, 02:30 AM

Hello Marius,

It sure does look Indo. It may not be old enough to allow narrowing down its origin to a specific culture though, I'm afraid.

Regards,
Kai

VANDOO · 15th September 2016, 04:55 AM

JUDGING FROM THE DESIGN OF THE HANDLE INDONESIA OR MALAYSIA ARE THE MOST LIKELY. THIS ITEM APPEARS TO BE A LOCALLY OR HOME MADE KNIFE CERTAINLY NOT A TOURIST ITEM.

DaveA · 21st September 2016, 08:07 AM

The shape of the hilt is reminiscent of some that I've seen from Sumatra on "rawit" knives. However, the guard and blade look like a gunong from Mindinao, Philippines. Unusual item!

mariusgmioc · 21st September 2016, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveA

The shape of the hilt is reminiscent of some that I've seen from Sumatra on "rawit" knives. However, the guard and blade look like a gunong from Mindinao, Philippines. Unusual item!

Thank you for the very interesting observations!

kai · 22nd September 2016, 01:00 AM

Hello Dave,

Quote:

the guard and blade look like a gunong from Mindinao, Philippines

The blade doesn't come close to any Moro gunong (or punal) - especially the narrow waist is more like a very roughly forged spear head.

Only the guard reminds of a gunong; however, it doesn't show any features that are positively Moro and could basically come from anywhere throughout the SEA archipelago (especially given its apparently post-WW2 origin).

Regards,
Kai

14th September 2016, 09:43 PM	#1
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Indonesian (?) dagger for ID Hello, A friend asked me to help him identify this presumably Indonesian dagger. Any help is most welcimed! Attached Images

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DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 413	Possibly Sumatra? No, Philippines?!? The shape of the hilt is reminiscent of some that I've seen from Sumatra on "rawit" knives. However, the guard and blade look like a gunong from Mindinao, Philippines. Unusual item!

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15th September 2016, 02:30 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Marius, It sure does look Indo. It may not be old enough to allow narrowing down its origin to a specific culture though, I'm afraid. Regards, Kai

15th September 2016, 04:55 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	JUDGING FROM THE DESIGN OF THE HANDLE INDONESIA OR MALAYSIA ARE THE MOST LIKELY. THIS ITEM APPEARS TO BE A LOCALLY OR HOME MADE KNIFE CERTAINLY NOT A TOURIST ITEM.