unusual Indonesian dagger for comment

Marcus · 2nd July 2016, 02:13 PM

I have this on order from Oriental arms. Artzi says the following:
This dagger with colorful with pamor spear shaped blade (May be a secondary use of a spear blade) and keris style carved and colorful hilt and scabbard is Indonesian, early - mid 20C. Blade 11 1/2 inches with a central rib. Total length 17 1/2 inches. Very good condition.

Where in Indonesia do you think this was made? If indeed the blade is a repurposed spear, might it not be older?

Marcus

CharlesS · 2nd July 2016, 05:37 PM

I think Artzi is referring to the dress(hilt and scabbard) when he says early-mid 20th century. The spear head may be older, but I finding it interesting that the base does not end in thickened ball and is not chiseled at all in a decorative way, but is just quite plain. This is NOT a must, but is very common on Indonesian tombak or spears.

mariusgmioc · 2nd July 2016, 06:09 PM

The scabbard and hilt look Balinese to me.

Interesting piece.

David · 3rd July 2016, 04:16 PM

The sheath and hilt most definitely appear to be Balinese as Marius has noted and i agree with Charles that the blade is most probably from a spear. I would image that Bali (or Lombak) is the likely origin of the blade as well.

Marcus · 16th July 2016, 04:42 PM

More pictures to share.

I can attest that the blade is lethal. A wasp crawled out of the scabbard as I was taking pictures. It was presumably a hitchhiker from one of Artzi warehouses in Israel. I dispatched it with the dagger.

DaveS · 17th July 2016, 03:30 AM

No doubt in my mind, It's definitely a remounted spear head. Probably Balinese...........Dave.

2nd July 2016, 02:13 PM	#1
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	unusual Indonesian dagger for comment I have this on order from Oriental arms. Artzi says the following: This dagger with colorful with pamor spear shaped blade (May be a secondary use of a spear blade) and keris style carved and colorful hilt and scabbard is Indonesian, early - mid 20C. Blade 11 1/2 inches with a central rib. Total length 17 1/2 inches. Very good condition. Where in Indonesia do you think this was made? If indeed the blade is a repurposed spear, might it not be older? Marcus Attached Images

16th July 2016, 04:42 PM	#5
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	In the details More pictures to share. I can attest that the blade is lethal. A wasp crawled out of the scabbard as I was taking pictures. It was presumably a hitchhiker from one of Artzi warehouses in Israel. I dispatched it with the dagger. Attached Images

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2nd July 2016, 05:37 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	I think Artzi is referring to the dress(hilt and scabbard) when he says early-mid 20th century. The spear head may be older, but I finding it interesting that the base does not end in thickened ball and is not chiseled at all in a decorative way, but is just quite plain. This is NOT a must, but is very common on Indonesian tombak or spears.

2nd July 2016, 06:09 PM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	The scabbard and hilt look Balinese to me. Interesting piece.

3rd July 2016, 04:16 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,113	The sheath and hilt most definitely appear to be Balinese as Marius has noted and i agree with Charles that the blade is most probably from a spear. I would image that Bali (or Lombak) is the likely origin of the blade as well.

17th July 2016, 03:30 AM	#6
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	No doubt in my mind, It's definitely a remounted spear head. Probably Balinese...........Dave.