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[Chauncey Depew]

I’ve collected antique arms for some time, but have lately been acquiring 18th and 19th century Austrian militaria and have come across a number of hangers and other infantryman’s side arms with, for me, novel elements—like talismanic blades and Pandour motifs. I need to learn more about these.

The most recent acquisition is the hanger in the attachments. The blade profile and decorations are not dissimilar from the issue versions of the Austrian 1765 patterns linked below. But the horn grip and the screwdriver and flint knapper terminations to each end of the Cross guard were new to me.

I wondered whether this is just some later civilian adaption of a military hanger, perhaps a variant for frontier troops, or something else? I’d be grateful for any thoughts and leads.

For comparison, two eighteenth-century Austrian hangers with similar blade profile and marks.

Austrian Model 1765 Grenadier hanger:
http://www.sailorinsaddle.com/product.aspx?id=765

Also with the Turk's head and various talismanic symbols.

And a second one may be seen here:

http://armsandantiques.com/fine-anti...r-hanger-es754

1765 Austrian Infantry hanger w/Pandour head and some talismanic markings

www.sailorinsaddle.com/product.aspx?id=765 http://armsandantiques.com/fine-anti...r-hanger-es754

[fernando]

Hk Chauncey,
You certainly wish to start this thread in the European section.
Let's move it.

[kronckew]

yes, belongs there along with the thread on crescent moon markings ( i just posted a link there to here . nice sword by the way, reminds me of a heavy hirschrfanger. like the hussar hilted hangers too...

[Roland_M]

Hello Chauncey,

i would say, this is a hunting trousse ("Waidpraxe" in german language) or a hunting sword ("Jagdplaute" in german).