Taking walrus hilted sword out of Germany

erlikhan · 4th November 2014, 09:14 PM

Hi. Any information, especially ones from personal experiences are requested about CITES in practise.
Can i put a walrus ivory hilted yataghan sword into a luggage,take it into the plane as a checked bag in a Germany airport and receive it safely in my final destinayion (which will not be an EU country)? Or if it is really risky in Germany,what about neighboring EU countries?
( if the sword and the ivory parts will look antique without any doubt)
Regards

Gavin Nugent · 4th November 2014, 09:40 PM

In my opinion, mail it.

In todays political environment why draw flies

Gavin

erlikhan · 4th November 2014, 09:48 PM

But i have been told that mailing can be more risky. They go through postal custom control as well.

Lee · 5th November 2014, 12:25 AM

There is an old thread on CITES that might offer some insight. The safest course of action, of course, is to jump through the hoops and get a CITES permit.

estcrh · 6th November 2014, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

There is an old thread on CITES that might offer some insight. The safest course of action, of course, is to jump through the hoops and get a CITES permit.

Runjeet recently sent me a kard (England to USA) with a walrus ivory hilt, he was able to get a CITES permit so it is possible.

erlikhan · 6th November 2014, 05:53 PM

İs it free in ENgland? In Germany it costs something like 100-150 euros and a long time.

Jens Nordlunde · 21st November 2014, 10:36 PM

No what I bought in England was sent by TNT courier post, and it was all checked - at one time it took weeks before it was released - but that was only one time. Last time it took hours or maybe a day.
What I dont understand is, that you wrote that it was in Germany, but lately you wrote that it was in England - have I misunderstand something?
I do wish that I could help you further, but I dont know how.
All the best wishes
Jens

erlikhan · 21st November 2014, 11:52 PM

Yes, I asked about Germany first. I bidded in an auction there, bought an antique dagger with walrus hilt, put it into the luggage and checked in the plane. Picked it from the carousel in Istanbul. I wonder if I was lucky, very lucky, or just was not very unlucky according to statistics.
And now I wonder United Kingdom experiences of forum members about the same subject. I have not bought any particular item from there yet, but I plan to.

4th November 2014, 09:14 PM	#1
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Taking walrus hilted sword out of Germany Hi. Any information, especially ones from personal experiences are requested about CITES in practise. Can i put a walrus ivory hilted yataghan sword into a luggage,take it into the plane as a checked bag in a Germany airport and receive it safely in my final destinayion (which will not be an EU country)? Or if it is really risky in Germany,what about neighboring EU countries? ( if the sword and the ivory parts will look antique without any doubt) Regards Last edited by erlikhan; 4th November 2014 at 09:51 PM.

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4th November 2014, 09:40 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	In my opinion, mail it. In todays political environment why draw flies Gavin

4th November 2014, 09:48 PM	#3
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	But i have been told that mailing can be more risky. They go through postal custom control as well.

5th November 2014, 12:25 AM	#4
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 917	There is an old thread on CITES that might offer some insight. The safest course of action, of course, is to jump through the hoops and get a CITES permit.

6th November 2014, 05:53 PM	#6
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	İs it free in ENgland? In Germany it costs something like 100-150 euros and a long time.

21st November 2014, 10:36 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	No what I bought in England was sent by TNT courier post, and it was all checked - at one time it took weeks before it was released - but that was only one time. Last time it took hours or maybe a day. What I dont understand is, that you wrote that it was in Germany, but lately you wrote that it was in England - have I misunderstand something? I do wish that I could help you further, but I dont know how. All the best wishes Jens

21st November 2014, 11:52 PM	#8
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Yes, I asked about Germany first. I bidded in an auction there, bought an antique dagger with walrus hilt, put it into the luggage and checked in the plane. Picked it from the carousel in Istanbul. I wonder if I was lucky, very lucky, or just was not very unlucky according to statistics. And now I wonder United Kingdom experiences of forum members about the same subject. I have not bought any particular item from there yet, but I plan to.