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It's tarnished and disintegrating, but it was within my price range. After reading Ibrahiim's extensive khanjar thread, I believe this would be a Muscat style khanjar?
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Hi Blue Lander,
IMHO this is from the Al Ahsa region of Saudi Arabia. This area borders modern day Oman. The King Faisal Center in Riyadh identifies this style as being from there. Omani khanjars do not usually have the diamond shaped decoration. Here is an almost identical one I have. Stu |
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That is a dead ringer for mine. I guess it's Saudi rather than Omani.
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I am waiting for the other shoe to drop...
Hope that's not to obtuse? Spiral |
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I take your comment to mean "this is a fake/tourist piece but I don't want to be the one who tells him"?
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The weapons they show include part of a superb collection of Omani daggers put together by a German source and from East Africa ...and therein lies the problem...East Africa "encompassed" the regional area of Zanzibar and north to the Red Sea for trade etc...Consequently several of the daggers they show are not Omani but very similar... but with a curious flower stamp on the reverse...unknown to Omani style. The stamp originates with the flower tribe in what was the Asir...The other clue is the scabbards are inscribed on the reverse in typical regional style ...Occasionally Omani Khanjars had a makers or owners mark but rarely...whereas on Asir weapons it was common. The weapons have the typical bigger turn in the scabbard. Thus they are purebreds alright... but Yemeni pre 1921 Asir ... Now KSA. These are the daggers that Omani people call Habaabi. (Abha is the capital of that region and Abhaabi or Habaabi means ..."Of Abha") Naturally I have written several times to the authors but as yet without reply...and therefor place the pictures for more research... Note the dagger has the usual UUUUUU design above the belt section and the bigger turn to the scabbard. The flower stamp is on the reverse. For flower tribe (second picture shows flower tribals) and complete pictorial proof see the following series of pictures; http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesfred/5512947198 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mytripsmypics/4336633417 http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesfred/5780340287 http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesfred/5780340299 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mytripsmypics/4318547823 Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. * Pictures below from the non commercial site http://www.omanisilver.com Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 7th July 2014 at 08:45 PM. |
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This guy just arrived in the mail. I've given it a scrubbing with tooth paste and a tooth brush, I'll try to clean it a bit more.
Any idea what the loops on the back of the scabbard are for? |
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Yes its how they attach such weapons as these to the belt. Your dagger is from the Asir... It looks old enough... perhaps before the region was encapsulated into KSA from the Yemen in about 1923...The floral decoration is likely to be flower tribe inspired. In Oman these are called Habaabi... from Abha the capital of that region...For this variant the Royal Omani Khanjar is in the frame...
Good luck with the cleanup... Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. |
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I thought the rings on the side were for attaching to the belt, but it makes sense they're attached on the back as well.
I'm so excited to hear this khanjar might be approaching the 100 year mark. From reading your definitive khanjar thread I gather khanjars older than 50 or 60 years are not that common. This floral tribe, is it the Zahran tribe? |
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Don't get too excited about the age of your Jambiya. Suggest that you present the piece to someone who can appraise it first hand. Don't forget that something made in 1950s(relatively recently) is still 64 years old today. |
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In mentioning the 1920 s as the date of KSA inclusion I hope I did not indicate 100 years old or near... They have been making them in the same region up until now... Looking at the wear I would be happy with 30 years or something like that and some severe damage to the hilt ...maybe it got squashed ... Nothing wrong with 30 years ...Its old enough... Once you have repaired the hilt it will be fine. ![]() |
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