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Old 8th November 2005, 05:11 PM   #1
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You may have a look to:

http://www.museumkennis.nl/asp/page....nis&id=i000024

Some important Kerisses from Dutch Musea. Search for KRIS.

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Old 9th November 2005, 01:03 AM   #2
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Vielen dank, mein freund. Diese krisen sind shone (das tut mir leid, mein vortshaft ist nichts besonders gut ).

I especially like the state kris that is featured also in "Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago" and one other kris that I think is dressed in swaasa that is featured in another book on keris.

Again, thank you for the link. I am a little surprised that they use "kris" instead of "keris".
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Old 9th November 2005, 08:22 AM   #3
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I am a little surprised that they use "kris" instead of "keris".
That's just the Dutch common name which stuck with these blades. You know that the early seafaring accounts use many different transliterations/corruptions of the local names and the spelling "kris" seems to have been adopted in several European languages, at least during the later parts of the colonial period.

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Old 9th November 2005, 01:41 PM   #4
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In the dutch musea are very nice keris present.

Battara and Kai, It is very simple that we use the word kris instead of keris. When you speak the word keris quickly and not very clear a dutch (and probably not only a dutch) will hear the word keris as kris. In many old dutch book about keris, keris is written as kris. It is very likely the authors heared the word kris and nobody made a correction. When you ask a dutch about kris a lot of them will refer to the Indonesian dagger. When you ask for keris a lot of us will look at you with incomprehension.
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Old 9th November 2005, 03:53 PM   #5
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Don't seem to see anything when I click on the link. Can't read Dutch too.
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Old 9th November 2005, 04:14 PM   #6
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Blu,

When you see the underscores, type 'kris' and click 'Zeok'.
You'll get a list of related hits...enjoy...

For translations, I copy and paste the text
using Altavista Babel Fish Translations.
It's not perfect but can give an outline of what it means...
http://world.altavista.com/

Of course there are other such as SDL International
Free text translator.
http://www.freetranslation.com/
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