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Hello All,
I just received my last e-bay grab, here the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT I am positive surprised, it's a nice and good worked small keris. The five luk blade is without pesi 26,5 cm (10.43 inch) long. The buntut of the sheath is long missing and the gandar is filled with resin and there is a carved circle at the end of the gandar. What do you think, is it a pure bugis keris? Do you agree the the buntut have been a flat one? Which reason may have the carved circle? All comments are welcome, thank's in advance. Detlef |
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Hi Detlef,
You must have an impressive filter/keyword on ebay to be able to find this (I remember not too long ago you have a good deal with ivory hilted keris), mind to share with us? Is it something like: old,kris -rubbish ![]() I don't have any answer/opinion for your question, unfortunately, but congrats for this found! PS. keep the filter secret ![]() |
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![]() ![]() By the way I notice the line on the blade where the ganja-horizontal met the bilah-vertical is curved. Perhaps this help the next poster to identify or elaborate this feature belong to/unique identity of certain region, except of course other details that counts. Thanks. |
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Very nice wood grain on hilt.
The carved circle is most probably a buntut imitation. |
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yes, the hilt seems to be carved from Kemuning. But the sarung have also a nice grain, I have cleaned it already and it look very nice. Tomorrow I will post some pictures. That the circle shall be a buntut imitation is possible but when it is like this it is a later addition when the original one go lost. The carving isn't very fine and I don't think that it is from the mranggi who carved the sheath. Regards, Detlef |
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thank you! It's this time like David write, the key word have been "kris" and like Alan like to write it's also the "e-bay-gamble", the pictures haven't been very significant and it is also my "feeling" if it may be a good or bad gamble. ![]() Best regards, Detlef |
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Hello BigG,
thank you for your further comments. Yes, the sampir hasn't the nice grain like the other one but it's better than to seen on the pictures. I start to clean the blade (not yet finished) and here some pics, also from the cleaned handle. |
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The blade has fine crystaline structures... this is a form of decorative element similar to pamors. Many Malay blades have non contrasting metal combinations... the crystaline structures are termed as miangs. This is in reference to fine hairlike structures on bamboo leaves and stems that are a protective element/ It is highly irratable and causes extreme and maddening itches... The name that are given to the crystaline structures are derived from this. They are prized for talismanic as well as asthetics qualities just like pamors... |
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Firstly, if am right in assuming that the sheath fits well and is original to the piece, then it would tell us a fair bit about the intended character of the keris as a whole. The sheath and hulu is made very functional with the prerequisites of a good fighting blade dressing all there. A functional hard wood material for the sampir and probably the huu too, without too much showiness in grains and decorative natural patternings... the sena stem again with minimum asthetics and also a prerequisite material for the dressing of a fighting blade and no ostentatious refinement to the sampir. The blade has luk 5... effective fighting blades is usually deemed to be have between 3-5 blades. The blade is likely to be light in the hand but very sturdy. The width of the luks are not too deep and neither is it too shallow. Making it ideal for stabbing as well as slashing at very close quarters... If you notice, the edges of the blades has rough serrated edges. These are not the results of weathering but deliberately designed to increase the efficacy of the blade in combat. Based on oral traditions of Malay Silat practitioners, seasoned collectors and academics who have done researched on this that I have met as well as my own experimentations, The serration would cause increase tissue trauma during the entry of the blade as well as during its exiting. So congrats... a piece that lacks ostentatious refinements but a very good fighting man blade... no frills but likely to be deadly... probably a what is deemed by malay collectors as a "Bilah Berjasa", A Blade That Performed Its Intended Duty ... ie a blooded blade... |
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I think that the sheath is the original one to the bilah, look the pic.
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Thks BigG for lengthy explanation on combat worthiness of this keris, and Malay/Bugis pieces in general.
Back in the olden days of Majapahit and Demak, Jawanese keris were indeed very effective weapons esp. in close quarter combat. These were described in many babads and kidungs. The difference between Malay and Jawanese fighting styles could be seen from the blade and hilt designs. Malay were more inclined towards stabbing techniques as opposed to Jawanese preferences on slashing/slicing techniques. |
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