Mandaya dagger for comment

Lew · 23rd May 2008, 05:36 AM

Got this on a buy now. Should be able to be restored?

http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-PHILIPINNES-...QQcmdZViewItem

Lew

VVV · 23rd May 2008, 08:56 AM

Congratulations!

And a very nice price too...

Michael

Ferguson · 23rd May 2008, 10:41 AM

Holy Toledo! You did well my friend.

Can't wait to see what you do with it.
Steve

Bill M · 23rd May 2008, 01:46 PM

Congratulations!

Rick · 23rd May 2008, 02:11 PM

An unusual example .
Quite nice Lew .

Battara · 23rd May 2008, 04:05 PM

I would say restore - the question is what will you restore?

Rick · 23rd May 2008, 04:11 PM

Hi Jose,

D'you think the grooves on the horns of the hilt once had silver wire in them ?
I'm intrigued by the shape of the hilt; have you ever seen this variation before ?

Btw, still looking for a decent container for the tulwar ..

Lew · 23rd May 2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I would say restore - the question is what will you restore?

Jose

The hilt needs to have the silver bands restored. The scabbard needs to have that ugly wire removed and replaced with a couple of silver bands.

Lew

Battara · 25th May 2008, 07:12 PM

After looking at the pictures carefully, I agree that the hilt had silver bands on it. Yes the wrap on the scabbard looks newer and that it probably had pierced or "pin pricked" silver design. I can do both if you are interested.

Rick as far as the hilt design is concerned, I would say that it is a similar idea to the same shape found on the top of Kalinga and other Igorot shields (though not related) in that the middle is the head and the other 2 "wings" are arms raised up.

Rick · 26th May 2008, 03:37 AM

I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

Lew · 26th May 2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

Rick I think those lines were scribed in order give the maker a point of reference to mount the bands? Here is one that Bill Marsh has for comparison.

Lew

Battara · 28th May 2008, 07:35 PM

I took a close look at the arms and there is darker patina in between some of the bands which indicates to me the former presence of silver bands (which give off a dark patina). At first guess, however, I thought that the lines were for silver wire. The scabbard is recent.

23rd May 2008, 05:36 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Mandaya dagger for comment Got this on a buy now. Should be able to be restored? http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-PHILIPINNES-...QQcmdZViewItem Lew

23rd May 2008, 08:56 AM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Congratulations! And a very nice price too... Michael

23rd May 2008, 10:41 AM	#3
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Holy Toledo! You did well my friend. Can't wait to see what you do with it. Steve

23rd May 2008, 01:46 PM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Congratulations!

23rd May 2008, 02:11 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	An unusual example . Quite nice Lew .

23rd May 2008, 04:05 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	I would say restore - the question is what will you restore?

23rd May 2008, 04:11 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	Hi Jose, D'you think the grooves on the horns of the hilt once had silver wire in them ? I'm intrigued by the shape of the hilt; have you ever seen this variation before ? Btw, still looking for a decent container for the tulwar ..

25th May 2008, 07:12 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	After looking at the pictures carefully, I agree that the hilt had silver bands on it. Yes the wrap on the scabbard looks newer and that it probably had pierced or "pin pricked" silver design. I can do both if you are interested. Rick as far as the hilt design is concerned, I would say that it is a similar idea to the same shape found on the top of Kalinga and other Igorot shields (though not related) in that the middle is the head and the other 2 "wings" are arms raised up.

26th May 2008, 03:37 AM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	I guess the carved in lines on the hilt threw me for a loop .

28th May 2008, 07:35 PM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	I took a close look at the arms and there is darker patina in between some of the bands which indicates to me the former presence of silver bands (which give off a dark patina). At first guess, however, I thought that the lines were for silver wire. The scabbard is recent.