Rare Brass Atjeh Shield

Dajak · 27th August 2007, 07:43 PM

This shield is the one that is pictured in Zonneveld s book
now in my collection .

I have seen this type off shields in the Museum Depot.

Ben

Albert · 27th August 2007, 08:59 PM

A very nice one Ben, congratulations!

Albert

VVV · 27th August 2007, 09:20 PM

Congratulations!

And also from a very nice collection.

Michael

Dajak · 27th August 2007, 10:04 PM

Hi Albert and Michael thanks for the comment .
And yes it has great provonance and from an old Dutch collect(or)ion.

The strange about the shield is that the number is even 6 no 5,7 or 9
That is the strange thing about it .

Ben

Flavio · 28th August 2007, 01:48 AM

Beautiful! Simple and very elegant!! Congratulations

asomotif · 28th August 2007, 02:03 PM

Recently a very (very) similar shield was sold with 5 bosses (4 + 1 in the middle)
I checked my files but could not find any pictures sad enough.

But still a rather rare type. heavy too.

Dajak · 29th August 2007, 06:36 AM

Hi Willem to me I think this was the only type off brass shield that
was also in Use for fighting .
The other brass ones more ceremonial and some made for tourist .
Ben

asomotif · 29th August 2007, 10:37 AM

Hi Ben,

Quote:

Hi Willem to me I think this was the only type off brass shield that
was also in Use for fighting .
The other brass ones more ceremonial and some made for tourist

.

As this type of shield is quite rare, this would suggest that people in Aceh where rather peacefull

Ps. I found a picture of the one that was on sale last jan 2007.
Looks a lot alike. doesn't it?

Best regards,
Willem

Dajak · 29th August 2007, 01:17 PM

Hi Willem yes these type off shields are rare not easy to find an other one .
The other brass shields are more common .

Ben

Dajak · 21st November 2007, 04:08 PM

I found an shield that was collected in early 1900 same as yours Willem .

It comes from an Dutch knil officer to me more proof that these shields are in use before 1900 .

I put an pic from the officer and an document that he was in the Atjeh in early 1900.

This comes from his collection .

That is now in my hands .

Ben

asomotif · 22nd November 2007, 12:40 PM

Yep, I was bidding on this one too.
But the state of the shield was too bad to get me bidding against you.

Nice that he also gave some info on the original owner.
Provenance is rare too.

Dajak · 23rd November 2007, 03:11 PM

Hi Willem I did get the full history of this Dutch KNIL officer very nice with an lot off pics.

I think these type off brass shields are the only one s that where used in batlle the other type I never found proof off .

Ben

josh stout · 23rd November 2007, 08:29 PM

Rattan shields were commonly used in China, and the Tibetan ones were quite similar to the Acehnese one pictured except that the bosses would be iron not brass. It is interesting considering the similarity of some Aceh swords with Tibetan shaped blades and folding...
Josh

Dajak · 24th November 2007, 07:47 AM

Hi Josh I now that there are persian shields that have Iron
Bosses.
I have never seen Atjeh ones with Iron.

Ben

josh stout · 26th November 2007, 04:19 PM

Here is a Tibetan one. Some are even more similar in appearance.
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/War...w_1.asp?item=3
Josh

27th August 2007, 07:43 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Rare Brass Atjeh Shield This shield is the one that is pictured in Zonneveld s book now in my collection . I have seen this type off shields in the Museum Depot. Ben Attached Images

27th August 2007, 08:59 PM	#2
Albert Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 200	Aceh shield A very nice one Ben, congratulations! Albert

21st November 2007, 04:08 PM	#10
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	I found an shield that was collected in early 1900 same as yours Willem . It comes from an Dutch knil officer to me more proof that these shields are in use before 1900 . I put an pic from the officer and an document that he was in the Atjeh in early 1900. This comes from his collection . That is now in my hands . Ben Attached Images

27th August 2007, 09:20 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Congratulations! And also from a very nice collection. Michael

27th August 2007, 10:04 PM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Albert and Michael thanks for the comment . And yes it has great provonance and from an old Dutch collect(or)ion. The strange about the shield is that the number is even 6 no 5,7 or 9 That is the strange thing about it . Ben

28th August 2007, 01:48 AM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Beautiful! Simple and very elegant!! Congratulations

28th August 2007, 02:03 PM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Recently a very (very) similar shield was sold with 5 bosses (4 + 1 in the middle) I checked my files but could not find any pictures sad enough. But still a rather rare type. heavy too.

29th August 2007, 06:36 AM	#7
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem to me I think this was the only type off brass shield that was also in Use for fighting . The other brass ones more ceremonial and some made for tourist . Ben

29th August 2007, 01:17 PM	#9
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem yes these type off shields are rare not easy to find an other one . The other brass shields are more common . Ben

22nd November 2007, 12:40 PM	#11
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Yep, I was bidding on this one too. But the state of the shield was too bad to get me bidding against you. Nice that he also gave some info on the original owner. Provenance is rare too.

23rd November 2007, 03:11 PM	#12
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Willem I did get the full history of this Dutch KNIL officer very nice with an lot off pics. I think these type off brass shields are the only one s that where used in batlle the other type I never found proof off . Ben

23rd November 2007, 08:29 PM	#13
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Rattan shields were commonly used in China, and the Tibetan ones were quite similar to the Acehnese one pictured except that the bosses would be iron not brass. It is interesting considering the similarity of some Aceh swords with Tibetan shaped blades and folding... Josh

24th November 2007, 07:47 AM	#14
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Josh I now that there are persian shields that have Iron Bosses. I have never seen Atjeh ones with Iron. Ben

26th November 2007, 04:19 PM	#15
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Here is a Tibetan one. Some are even more similar in appearance. http://www.metmuseum.org/special/War...w_1.asp?item=3 Josh