New Moro Kris: need opinion

ariel · 28th April 2006, 11:43 PM

Having witnessed innumerable discussions of Moro weapons on this Forum, I have decided to put my newly-acquired "knowledge" to the test.
I just sniped this Kris. No handle, but the blade looks old to me , with separate gangya, suggesting 19th century( how am I doing so far?)
I am not asking whether the royal sum of $82 is too much; compared to the current price of gas, it is a pittance.
What do you think of it? Should I give it polish/etching, look for a new handle and proudly display it as a personal weapon of my ancestors (after all, Lucy was our common great-grandmother)? Or just consign it to the farthest corner of my closet and buy it an "eximious housecarl Japanense yatagan" so it does not feel lonely in the dark?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6623916942

Rick · 29th April 2006, 12:28 AM

You could have done worse Ariel ; looks turn of the century .
Send it on to Battara but be sure you haggle with him over the price for a new baca baca and hilt plus bands for the scabbard .

We don't want him to get a big head now .

Ian · 30th April 2006, 12:26 AM

Ariel:

You did fine on the price and it looks about 100 +/- years old, maybe a little older. Fortunately it is disassembled so you can clean it completely. I would suggest a good polish and etch (you may be surprised by the pattern), then off to Battara for a nice kakatua hilt and cord wrap. Some rattan strips around the scabbard would look pretty sharp too.

Ian.

Battara · 2nd May 2006, 01:35 AM

You folks are way too kind.

Oh, Rick, as far as the "big head" is concerned - too late.

Yes, I agree - worth restoration and I would be glad to do so.

ariel · 2nd May 2006, 04:19 AM

Jose,
I sent you PM.

ariel · 6th May 2006, 09:35 PM

OK, folks, this is my first attempr at etching. RadioShack etching solution, diluted 1: 5, held for ~30 seconds.
I guess, I earned a "Gentleman's C" for effort, but the quality is unlikely to be satisfactory for Moro afficionados. BTW, if we have Dhafiosos, do we have Moron-ians?

Woops, I am afraid I am stepping on too many toes....

Seriously, how does it look? It seems the edge is hardened and there is some pattern even in the center of the blade.

Rick · 6th May 2006, 10:08 PM

Did you neutralize the etchant thoroughly ?
I spy some new looking rust .

/Moronians indeed !!

Jose , charge him double .

ernesto.e · 6th May 2006, 10:30 PM

I guess, I earned a "Gentleman's C" for effort, but the quality is unlikely to be satisfactory for Moro afficionados. BTW, if we have Dhafiosos, do we have Moron-ians?

Woops, I am afraid I am stepping on too many toes....

Buenas Tardis Ariel,

Off course you'll earn that gentleman's c. from me, that's a wonderful kris alright, you also earn the right to brag! but you don't need to be so fiesty about it! And to answer your question, the only "Moron-ians I see. . . . . is you!

ariel · 7th May 2006, 03:11 AM

Thanks! I have a couple of good Moro Krises and a great Panabas and , with the acqusition of this one, I feel an organic bond with esteemed Moro-nian Forumites. Just need to find a transitional form of a sword, something like Kampi-shashka
Will you adopt me, guys?

Rick · 7th May 2006, 03:23 AM

Only if you call us Philiphiles ..........

/Moronians indeed !
Harumph .....

ariel · 7th May 2006, 12:06 PM

Deal.

Rick · 7th May 2006, 03:53 PM

Battara · 9th May 2006, 01:45 AM

I guess it's better than Moro-maniacs.....

(Moron-ians..

)

nechesh · 9th May 2006, 01:49 PM

I duuno.....i kinda like Moro-maniacs.

Not sure if that is rust Rick spys or just a strange discoloring due to the chemical process. Personally i wouldn't use such chemicals. but would stick to something simplier and slower like vinegar or citrus.

Battara · 9th May 2006, 08:05 PM

Nechesh, you may have a point (like the one on top of my head

). I think it is not rust but chemical discoloration that occurs with near full strength acid of this nature is used and not cleaned off well. Nice greys and blacks though.

I also like Moro-maniacs (since I coined the phrase

).

(Moron-ians indeed!...

...

)

28th April 2006, 11:43 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	New Moro Kris: need opinion Having witnessed innumerable discussions of Moro weapons on this Forum, I have decided to put my newly-acquired "knowledge" to the test. I just sniped this Kris. No handle, but the blade looks old to me , with separate gangya, suggesting 19th century( how am I doing so far?) I am not asking whether the royal sum of $82 is too much; compared to the current price of gas, it is a pittance. What do you think of it? Should I give it polish/etching, look for a new handle and proudly display it as a personal weapon of my ancestors (after all, Lucy was our common great-grandmother)? Or just consign it to the farthest corner of my closet and buy it an "eximious housecarl Japanense yatagan" so it does not feel lonely in the dark? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6623916942 Last edited by ariel; 29th April 2006 at 02:19 PM.

29th April 2006, 12:28 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,333	Ehh ..... You could have done worse Ariel ; looks turn of the century . Send it on to Battara but be sure you haggle with him over the price for a new baca baca and hilt plus bands for the scabbard . We don't want him to get a big head now .

6th May 2006, 09:35 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	OK, folks, this is my first attempr at etching. RadioShack etching solution, diluted 1: 5, held for ~30 seconds. I guess, I earned a "Gentleman's C" for effort, but the quality is unlikely to be satisfactory for Moro afficionados. BTW, if we have Dhafiosos, do we have Moron-ians? Woops, I am afraid I am stepping on too many toes.... Seriously, how does it look? It seems the edge is hardened and there is some pattern even in the center of the blade. Attached Images

6th May 2006, 10:30 PM	#8
ernesto.e Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10	I guess, I earned a "Gentleman's C" for effort, but the quality is unlikely to be satisfactory for Moro afficionados. BTW, if we have Dhafiosos, do we have Moron-ians? Woops, I am afraid I am stepping on too many toes.... Buenas Tardis Ariel, Off course you'll earn that gentleman's c. from me, that's a wonderful kris alright, you also earn the right to brag! but you don't need to be so fiesty about it! And to answer your question, the only "Moron-ians I see. . . . . is you! Last edited by ernesto.e; 6th May 2006 at 10:42 PM.

30th April 2006, 12:26 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,356	Ariel: You did fine on the price and it looks about 100 +/- years old, maybe a little older. Fortunately it is disassembled so you can clean it completely. I would suggest a good polish and etch (you may be surprised by the pattern), then off to Battara for a nice kakatua hilt and cord wrap. Some rattan strips around the scabbard would look pretty sharp too. Ian.

2nd May 2006, 01:35 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,267	You folks are way too kind. Oh, Rick, as far as the "big head" is concerned - too late. Yes, I agree - worth restoration and I would be glad to do so.

2nd May 2006, 04:19 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Jose, I sent you PM.

6th May 2006, 10:08 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,333	Did you neutralize the etchant thoroughly ? I spy some new looking rust . /Moronians indeed !! Jose , charge him double .

7th May 2006, 03:11 AM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Thanks! I have a couple of good Moro Krises and a great Panabas and , with the acqusition of this one, I feel an organic bond with esteemed Moro-nian Forumites. Just need to find a transitional form of a sword, something like Kampi-shashka Will you adopt me, guys?

7th May 2006, 03:23 AM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,333	Only if you call us Philiphiles .......... /Moronians indeed ! Harumph .....

7th May 2006, 12:06 PM	#11
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Deal.

7th May 2006, 03:53 PM	#12
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,333

9th May 2006, 01:45 AM	#13
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,267	I guess it's better than Moro-maniacs..... (Moron-ians.. )

9th May 2006, 01:49 PM	#14
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I duuno.....i kinda like Moro-maniacs. Not sure if that is rust Rick spys or just a strange discoloring due to the chemical process. Personally i wouldn't use such chemicals. but would stick to something simplier and slower like vinegar or citrus.

9th May 2006, 08:05 PM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,267	Nechesh, you may have a point (like the one on top of my head ). I think it is not rust but chemical discoloration that occurs with near full strength acid of this nature is used and not cleaned off well. Nice greys and blacks though. I also like Moro-maniacs (since I coined the phrase ). (Moron-ians indeed!... ... )