Do you have a Dzeferdar rifle?

Kubur · 11th June 2016, 05:03 PM

Hi Guys,

Do you have a Dzeferdar?
I saw only one on the forum...
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=dzeferdar
I might have one now...

Best,

TVV · 11th June 2016, 06:00 PM

I have one. The barrel is by far its best feature.

Teodor

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 11th June 2016, 06:11 PM

See http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13706 where Dom gives a translation on this weapon and also outlined at # 1.

See some more below and at http://nimcha.fr/3-balkans.htm where a nice comparison can be made of guns in the region...and the reason why I place the map...

Kubur · 12th June 2016, 10:13 AM

Thank you guys
Very nice one Teodor, outstanding collection...
One very old Dzefarder at the Royal armouries, Leeds, from the 17th c.
https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ect-31130.html
Best,
Kubur

rickystl · 12th June 2016, 04:29 PM

Hi Kubur !!

Well, if you do pick up a Dzeferdar, please post photos.
There are only two long guns missing for my collection. A Dzeferdar and a Boyliya. Both usually on the expesive side to purchase. A Boyliya will occasionally come up for sale, but it seems the Dzeferdars seldom do. But I'll keep looking.

Ibrahiim: Thanks so much for posting that Link with the brief descriptons of the long guns regional manufacture and map. Very handy information. Never seen this before. I saved the Link to my library. Thanks again.

Teodor: Really nice Dzeferdar !! Yes, I agree with you about the barrel.

Rick.

Kubur · 17th July 2016, 10:57 PM

Hi Guys,
Finaly some photos of the animal...
Best,
Kubur

estcrh · 18th July 2016, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

See http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13706 where Dom gives a translation on this weapon and also outlined at # 1.

See some more below and at http://nimcha.fr/3-balkans.htm where a nice comparison can be made of guns in the region...and the reason why I place the map...

the translation is not to good but nice chart.

estcrh · 18th July 2016, 02:11 PM

If you have not read this essay you should, it is very informative.

https://www.academia.edu/5414711/A_B...seum_Timisoara

or
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3j...ew?usp=sharing

estcrh · 18th July 2016, 10:10 PM

From the Met Museum, I am assuming that this is a dzeferdar with possibly an Indian barrel.

Quote:

Balkan miquelet gun, 18th century, wood, steel, brass, niello, silver, mother-of-pearl, coral, turquoise, sapphire, ruby, L. 62 3/4 in. (159.4 cm), Bequest of George C. Stone, 1935, Met Museum.

Kubur · 19th July 2016, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estcrh

If you have not read this essay you should, it is very informative.

https://www.academia.edu/5414711/A_B...seum_Timisoara

or
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3j...ew?usp=sharing

Thank you very useful!!!

11th June 2016, 05:03 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Do you have a Dzeferdar rifle? Hi Guys, Do you have a Dzeferdar? I saw only one on the forum... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=dzeferdar I might have one now... Best,

11th June 2016, 06:00 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,659	I have one. The barrel is by far its best feature. Teodor Attached Images

11th June 2016, 06:11 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	See http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13706 where Dom gives a translation on this weapon and also outlined at # 1. See some more below and at http://nimcha.fr/3-balkans.htm where a nice comparison can be made of guns in the region...and the reason why I place the map... Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 11th June 2016 at 06:24 PM.

12th June 2016, 10:13 AM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Thank you guys Very nice one Teodor, outstanding collection... One very old Dzefarder at the Royal armouries, Leeds, from the 17th c. https://collections.royalarmouries.o...ect-31130.html Best, Kubur Attached Images

17th July 2016, 10:57 PM	#6
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Guys, Finaly some photos of the animal... Best, Kubur Attached Images

12th June 2016, 04:29 PM	#5
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,629	Hi Kubur !! Well, if you do pick up a Dzeferdar, please post photos. There are only two long guns missing for my collection. A Dzeferdar and a Boyliya. Both usually on the expesive side to purchase. A Boyliya will occasionally come up for sale, but it seems the Dzeferdars seldom do. But I'll keep looking. Ibrahiim: Thanks so much for posting that Link with the brief descriptons of the long guns regional manufacture and map. Very handy information. Never seen this before. I saved the Link to my library. Thanks again. Teodor: Really nice Dzeferdar !! Yes, I agree with you about the barrel. Rick.

18th July 2016, 02:11 PM	#8
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	If you have not read this essay you should, it is very informative. https://www.academia.edu/5414711/A_B...seum_Timisoara or https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3j...ew?usp=sharing Attached Images Last edited by estcrh; 18th July 2016 at 03:33 PM.