Ancient Bronze '' Keris '' found in Bujang Valley Malaysia

HangPC2 · 25th April 2016, 04:53 AM

Location : Lembah Bujang ''Bujang Valley'' Kedah, Malaysia

Credit : Lang Kataha

A. G. Maisey · 25th April 2016, 08:53 AM

Interesting.

Do we have details of the finding and results of examination?

David · 25th April 2016, 02:03 PM

Well, i see a rusty wavy dagger, but i don't see a keris.

ariel · 25th April 2016, 02:28 PM

AFAIK, bronze does not rust. Is it iron?

A. G. Maisey · 25th April 2016, 10:56 PM

Yes David, correct, but we do have a flamboyant blade in something that purports to be very old, the Bujang Valley culture endured for a reasonably long time, so it would be nice to know a bit about this find. Especially so since in Indonesia falsification of such finds, mostly for the purpose of marketing forgeries, is not unknown.

Ariel, I think we may find that the rust coloured deposits are from earth adhesions. There is another possibility, and that is that the item in question was buried together with iron objects, and the rusting iron has adhered to the metal of the dagger; I have a Majapahit era bell that has a similar rust coloured stain.

ariel · 26th April 2016, 01:04 AM

That sounds very reasonable. Thanks Alan.

David · 26th April 2016, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes David, correct, but we do have a flamboyant blade in something that purports to be very old, the Bujang Valley culture endured for a reasonably long time, so it would be nice to know a bit about this find.

Absolutely. Sorry if my response led you to believe i thought otherwise.

25th April 2016, 04:53 AM	#1
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 66	Ancient Bronze '' Keris '' found in Bujang Valley Malaysia Location : Lembah Bujang ''Bujang Valley'' Kedah, Malaysia Credit : Lang Kataha

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,965	Interesting. Do we have details of the finding and results of examination?

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David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,200	Well, i see a rusty wavy dagger, but i don't see a keris.

25th April 2016, 02:28 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	AFAIK, bronze does not rust. Is it iron?

25th April 2016, 10:56 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,965	Yes David, correct, but we do have a flamboyant blade in something that purports to be very old, the Bujang Valley culture endured for a reasonably long time, so it would be nice to know a bit about this find. Especially so since in Indonesia falsification of such finds, mostly for the purpose of marketing forgeries, is not unknown. Ariel, I think we may find that the rust coloured deposits are from earth adhesions. There is another possibility, and that is that the item in question was buried together with iron objects, and the rusting iron has adhered to the metal of the dagger; I have a Majapahit era bell that has a similar rust coloured stain.

26th April 2016, 01:04 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	That sounds very reasonable. Thanks Alan.