Qaddar Sword. Persian?

arsendaday · 21st September 2015, 09:38 PM

Hi everybody.

This is my first post in this forum and I have this blade, which is most likely a Persian Qaddar dagger/sword, as I found out after some research. This blade has three fullers on each side; two narrow ones and a larger one underneath those. It has some intricate engravings and a maker's mark in the form of a flower. I was wandering if anybody has seen this maker's mark before or can identify it and if someone can tell me what the maker's mark says.

Thank you.

estcrh · 22nd September 2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by arsendaday

Hi everybody.

This is my first post in this forum and I have this blade, which is most likely a Persian Qaddar dagger/sword, as I found out after some research. This blade has three fullers on each side; two narrow ones and a larger one underneath those. It has some intricate engravings and a maker's mark in the form of a flower. I was wandering if anybody has seen this maker's mark before or can identify it and if someone can tell me what the maker's mark says.

Thank you.

I can not add anything but I was wondering how long your sword is, I like the shape of these, you can stab and slash with it.

VANDOO · 23rd September 2015, 03:53 AM

A NICE SWORD TOO BAD THE HANDLE IS MISSING. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A RUSSIAN SWORD LIKELY FROM GEORGIA OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A QUAMA. THE ONES FROM GEORGIA OFTEN HAVE SEVERAL FULLERS LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE WITH MAKERS MARKS LIKE YOURS. WELCOME TO THE FORUM AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR SEARCH.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd September 2015, 07:01 PM

The style is Quddera...Persian, whereas the Qama looks like a cross between Roman Gladius and a Scottish Dirk ...see http://atkinson-swords.com/collectio...a-georgia.html for what a Qudderra looks like .

Try http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=persian for the same stamp on what is spelled as Quaddara

see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=quaddara

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

arsendaday · 24th September 2015, 07:03 AM

Thanks to everyone that replied. I also think that this is made in Persia, as after a research online I found several examples that are clearly Persian. Also Qamas are double edged (even if they have a curved blade)...

I have restored the handle since and made a video of the restoration and will post a link here soon (of course only if it is OK with the moderators of this site), after I upload it to You Tube. (The video will stay there forever so broken link will not be a problem.) I would love to know what the maker's mark says, if somebody can read it.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 25th September 2015, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arsendaday

Thanks to everyone that replied. I also think that this is made in Persia, as after a research online I found several examples that are clearly Persian. Also Qamas are double edged (even if they have a curved blade)...

I have restored the handle since and made a video of the restoration and will post a link here soon (of course only if it is OK with the moderators of this site), after I upload it to You Tube. (The video will stay there forever so broken link will not be a problem.) I would love to know what the maker's mark says, if somebody can read it.

Salaams arsendaday ...There is no makers mark in writing . There is no writing....

The floral pattern may be a makers symbol ...but there is no name as such.
....and welcome to the Forum...
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

arsendaday · 25th September 2015, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

I can not add anything but I was wondering how long your sword is, I like the shape of these, you can stab and slash with it.

This sword is 29" overall: 23" blade and 6" handle. I think these swords or long daggers are the weapons that were on the person at all times, like wakizashis for samurais and you can stab and slash with this kind of dagger and it is also comfortable to carry unlike a longer sword, i.e. a shamshir.

arsendaday · 25th September 2015, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams arsendaday ...There is no makers mark in writing . There is no writing....

The floral pattern may be a makers symbol ...but there is no name as such.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Thanks Ibrahim

arsendaday · 26th September 2015, 02:54 AM

Here is the video I where I restored the handle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVRqNye6y8

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 26th September 2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by arsendaday

Here is the video I where I restored the handle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVRqNye6y8

Salaams arsendaday... Excellent work on your Quaderra... Bravo !

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

arsendaday · 27th September 2015, 09:05 PM

Here are some photos of the restored sword.

estcrh · 27th September 2015, 11:24 PM

It looks great, thanks for the video!

Sajen · 6th March 2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by arsendaday

Here are some photos of the restored sword.

Very well done!

21st September 2015, 09:38 PM	#1
arsendaday Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Qaddar Sword. Persian? Hi everybody. This is my first post in this forum and I have this blade, which is most likely a Persian Qaddar dagger/sword, as I found out after some research. This blade has three fullers on each side; two narrow ones and a larger one underneath those. It has some intricate engravings and a maker's mark in the form of a flower. I was wandering if anybody has seen this maker's mark before or can identify it and if someone can tell me what the maker's mark says. Thank you. Attached Images

23rd September 2015, 07:01 PM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	The style is Quddera...Persian, whereas the Qama looks like a cross between Roman Gladius and a Scottish Dirk ...see http://atkinson-swords.com/collectio...a-georgia.html for what a Qudderra looks like . Try http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=persian for the same stamp on what is spelled as Quaddara see also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=quaddara Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 23rd September 2015 at 07:18 PM.

27th September 2015, 09:05 PM	#11
arsendaday Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Here are some photos of the restored sword. Attached Images Last edited by arsendaday; 28th September 2015 at 12:03 AM.

23rd September 2015, 03:53 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A NICE SWORD TOO BAD THE HANDLE IS MISSING. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A RUSSIAN SWORD LIKELY FROM GEORGIA OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A QUAMA. THE ONES FROM GEORGIA OFTEN HAVE SEVERAL FULLERS LIKE YOUR EXAMPLE BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE WITH MAKERS MARKS LIKE YOURS. WELCOME TO THE FORUM AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR SEARCH.

24th September 2015, 07:03 AM	#5
arsendaday Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Thanks to everyone that replied. I also think that this is made in Persia, as after a research online I found several examples that are clearly Persian. Also Qamas are double edged (even if they have a curved blade)... I have restored the handle since and made a video of the restoration and will post a link here soon (of course only if it is OK with the moderators of this site), after I upload it to You Tube. (The video will stay there forever so broken link will not be a problem.) I would love to know what the maker's mark says, if somebody can read it.

26th September 2015, 02:54 AM	#9
arsendaday Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Here is the video I where I restored the handle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVRqNye6y8

27th September 2015, 11:24 PM	#12
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	It looks great, thanks for the video!