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29th August 2013, 03:10 PM
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African dagger for I.D.
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Here is an unusual dagger recently acquired - can anyone help with identification ? I have a feeling it could be from the Nigeria/Cameroons area ?? Comments and references are welcome... |
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29th August 2013, 04:31 PM
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That's certainly what it looks like to me.
Hopefully Martin or Wolf will be along shortly and can ID it. Nice piece, seems to have good age. 
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1st September 2013, 06:06 PM
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Hi Colin and Iain,
I have never seen such dagger before. Nevertheless, the decoration on the blade reminds me Dadia, Tula, Fali, Movu..... And the iron safeguard is like on the Mandara mountains (kapsiki ?) swords. So I would also say Cameroon, province de l´Extreme-Nord. Maybe it could be important piece of collection of sahel daggers, as I said, I have never seen such variety before. Regards, Martin |
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1st September 2013, 06:41 PM
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A fine and interesting piece, congrats.
The style reminds me of the bronze Celtic anthropomorphic & antenna hilted daggers and swords. Gavin |
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1st September 2013, 07:14 PM
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Neat to hear this might be a rare one. Some of the more typical Mandara region pieces have a similar "celtic" look Gav.
I find it quite attractive.The closest thing to this dagger I can recall is a piece of Wolf's, which I'm sure he won't mind if I link to his site. http://www.africanarms.com/all-album...4101-93246784/ http://www.africanarms.com/all-album...38/mode/matrix |
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1st September 2013, 07:31 PM
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Great links Iain.
When you see this design element in these weapons one has to ask why the similarities. Gavin |
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2nd September 2013, 04:28 PM
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Hi Wolf,
You have really good good information resources.... I would like to join this opportunity and renew my old question: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6460 The sword is comming from Nigeria, too (and I saw another very similar on the market in Lagos that time). What would be your opinion concerning the tribe ? Regards, Martin |
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2nd September 2013, 07:13 PM
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Thanks to those who have commented on this item, especially to Wolf for the reference. What is the book in question ?
Regards, Colin |
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3rd September 2013, 12:00 AM
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It's a German book with the title "Zur materiellen Kultur der Bevölkerung des Jos-Plateaus", written by Sabine Weingarten.
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3rd September 2013, 07:48 AM
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Here´s a picture from Ch. Spring´s book African Arms and Armour - sword from Bauchi region Berom People, with similar pommel. (Berom lives in Jos Plateau, too)
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3rd September 2013, 07:56 AM
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Sorry, have problem with connection, here. (Maybe somebody else could load scan of the picture - page 42)
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3rd September 2013, 10:55 AM
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Can try
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3rd September 2013, 11:00 AM
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Trying again
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