PIRA OR TENEGRE ?

Royston · 30th May 2010, 03:38 PM

Is it a tenegre or a Pira ?

To me it has attributes of both, but then I am no expert.

Monster-head hilt. Long spine. American coins, you can see the dates on some and they appear to be silver.
Scabbard may or may not be original.

I will be happy for any comments and suggestions.

Regards
Roy

Maurice · 30th May 2010, 05:03 PM

I like the silver Handle!!!!!
I looked in my images database and found something that looked like it (the two pieces to the right of the image).
Both have the same shape of blade and also the handles have this protrusion. Although yours looks more Tenegre-like because of the face and is more attractive ??....

I wouldn't call it a pira...

Maurice · 30th May 2010, 05:14 PM

And the scabbard looks like a more plain version as those two depicted on the left.

Battara · 30th May 2010, 07:03 PM

It popularly is called a sanduko, although the natives in the highlands of Panay Island in the Philippines call it a sapot taribong. This is a nice example. Did not know you had another one. It is different from the tenegre.

Would you show pictures of the other side of the scabbard please?

FYI - I will soon be posting a separate thread with newly come to light research and information on exactly this type of piece.

Rick · 30th May 2010, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

And the scabbard looks like a more plain version as those two depicted on the left.

Nice assortment of Mandaya weapons .

Maurice · 30th May 2010, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Nice assortment of Mandaya weapons .

Ofcourse I picked the images from another thread and they are not mine unfortunately.....

Battara · 30th May 2010, 10:06 PM

Yes they are from the Macao Exhibit and as mentioned are from the Mandaya tribe.

Royston's piece is from the Bukidnon (what some called Mondo) tribe. It is a rare form of sanduko, the highest form and ceremonial.

30th May 2010, 03:38 PM	#1
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	PIRA OR TENEGRE ? Is it a tenegre or a Pira ? To me it has attributes of both, but then I am no expert. Monster-head hilt. Long spine. American coins, you can see the dates on some and they appear to be silver. Scabbard may or may not be original. I will be happy for any comments and suggestions. Regards Roy Attached Images

30th May 2010, 05:03 PM	#2
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	I like the silver Handle!!!!! I looked in my images database and found something that looked like it (the two pieces to the right of the image). Both have the same shape of blade and also the handles have this protrusion. Although yours looks more Tenegre-like because of the face and is more attractive ??.... I wouldn't call it a pira... Attached Images

30th May 2010, 05:14 PM	#3
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	And the scabbard looks like a more plain version as those two depicted on the left. Attached Images

30th May 2010, 07:03 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	It popularly is called a sanduko, although the natives in the highlands of Panay Island in the Philippines call it a sapot taribong. This is a nice example. Did not know you had another one. It is different from the tenegre. Would you show pictures of the other side of the scabbard please? FYI - I will soon be posting a separate thread with newly come to light research and information on exactly this type of piece.

30th May 2010, 10:06 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Yes they are from the Macao Exhibit and as mentioned are from the Mandaya tribe. Royston's piece is from the Bukidnon (what some called Mondo) tribe. It is a rare form of sanduko, the highest form and ceremonial.