handgun at ebay

cornelistromp · 13th August 2009, 07:39 AM

Hi,

as there is a lot of interest in early guns at this forum, I found interesting handgun at ebay, European or Asian (chinese) ?

regards

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kronckew · 13th August 2009, 09:29 AM

an early revolver, a three-shooter.

KuKulzA28 · 13th August 2009, 02:25 PM

I think it is a Chinese 3-barrel gun... I cannot tell you much more about it

EDIT: I think you should take off the eBay link until the auction is complete! Don't want to be penalized. Read the rules!

Post a picture of it or something

Matchlock · 13th August 2009, 02:43 PM

Hi Cornelis,

This is a well known type of apparently early European form; they come with either three or four barrels and sometimes with a rest of the stick stock still in the socket. They are not rare at all.

There was a time in the first half of the 20th century when European historical weaponry was not yet aware of the types of archaic types of hanguns made in Indochina and the neighboring countries, of copper alloy and iron alike, resembling very much the forms of 14th and early 15th century European firearms. Of course, just as Indian matchlocks, they got there by sea trade and were then copied for centuries with very little alteration if ever. As they look so unbelievably archaic and authentic, some of them even found their way into European museums where they were consequently inventoried as 'German, 14th-15th c.' E.g. this is the case at the Museum Carolino Augusteum at Linz, Austria, which the seller is boasting of.

Today we know better and it was the great author and collector Howard L. Blackmore, who first identified a three barreled item in his own collection as 'oriental' and 'of uncertain date' in his 1964 booklet Firearms.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 13th August 2009, 02:45 PM

And: Cornelis, please read the rules concerning live auctions!!!!

You'd better take it off and repost the thread after the sale has ended!

Michael

Rick · 13th August 2009, 03:14 PM

I have removed the link .
Everyone PLEASE read the posting rules .

Sorry wrong forum; it's Jim's call .

13th August 2009, 07:39 AM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	handgun at ebay Hi, as there is a lot of interest in early guns at this forum, I found interesting handgun at ebay, European or Asian (chinese) ? regards link: [edit] Active auction . Last edited by Rick; 13th August 2009 at 03:12 PM.

13th August 2009, 02:25 PM	#3
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	I think it is a Chinese 3-barrel gun... I cannot tell you much more about it EDIT: I think you should take off the eBay link* until the auction is complete! Don't want to be penalized. Read the rules!* Post a picture of it or something Last edited by KuKulzA28; 13th August 2009 at 03:07 PM.

13th August 2009, 02:43 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Cornelis, This is a well known type of apparently early European form; they come with either three or four barrels and sometimes with a rest of the stick stock still in the socket. They are not rare at all. There was a time in the first half of the 20th century when European historical weaponry was not yet aware of the types of archaic types of hanguns made in Indochina and the neighboring countries, of copper alloy and iron alike, resembling very much the forms of 14th and early 15th century European firearms. Of course, just as Indian matchlocks, they got there by sea trade and were then copied for centuries with very little alteration if ever. As they look so unbelievably archaic and authentic, some of them even found their way into European museums where they were consequently inventoried as 'German, 14th-15th c.' E.g. this is the case at the Museum Carolino Augusteum at Linz, Austria, which the seller is boasting of. Today we know better and it was the great author and collector Howard L. Blackmore, who first identified a three barreled item in his own collection as 'oriental' and 'of uncertain date' in his 1964 booklet Firearms. Best, Michael Attached Images

13th August 2009, 02:45 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	And: Cornelis, please read the rules concerning live auctions!!!! You'd better take it off and repost the thread after the sale has ended! Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 13th August 2009 at 03:03 PM.

13th August 2009, 03:14 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,333	I have removed the link . Everyone PLEASE read the posting rules . Sorry wrong forum; it's Jim's call . Last edited by Rick; 13th August 2009 at 08:55 PM.

13th August 2009, 09:29 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,209	an early revolver, a three-shooter.