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osubrac · 14th January 2007, 01:26 AM

Can anyone give me info on this piece?

Emanuel · 14th January 2007, 03:14 AM

Hello,
Looks like a Madura keris with ivory ukiran. Dapur looks like brodjol, I can't tell what pamor it may be. Very nice, do you have a scabbard?

Emanuel

osubrac · 14th January 2007, 04:11 AM

Thanks for the info, no scabbard. How old is it?

Brian

Pangeran Datu · 14th January 2007, 08:28 AM

Hi,

Please ensure that the item you are listng is not under any current online auction listing, as I believe that it would violate forum policy.

My sincere apologies if I am mistaken

Regards,

Henk · 14th January 2007, 08:40 AM

Brian,

It is very hard to tell how old a keris is. Sometimes it is possible according to dapur and other characteristics to make a guess from what period a blade is.
But i think this blade has some age.

To tell you what pamor type it is is very difficult. The pictures are not sharp enough to see the details on the lower part of the blade. And if I judge the condition of the blade, it looks rather rusty and because of that the pamor has disapeared for a large part. To get the pamor out again the blade should be washed with warangan, but that should be done by somebody who is really able to do that.

How long is the blade? If that is a measuringstaff in cm, it is a real smal blade. Looks like you have a pat rem, a woman's keris.

Alam Shah · 14th January 2007, 11:47 PM

Brian,

The Dapur looks like Tilam Upih to me, with a tikel alis (eyelash) above the gandik area.

The mendak (hilt ring) looks like a simplified meniran form.
The hilt is a Maduran Donoriko form, probably made of ivory in this case.

As for age, it's hard to tell but I reckon this piece have some age to it.
The blade surface have rust to it. Perhaps with proper cleaning, more detail could be given.

If you don't mind, could you post more all-round pictures of the hilt.
More details could be told of this beautiful hilt.

Rick · 15th January 2007, 02:51 PM

This thread is closed; this is an active ebay auction.

Osubrac you are suspended for 10 days; please read the forum rules and guidelines.

Rick

14th January 2007, 01:26 AM	#1
osubrac Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	Information Can anyone give me info on this piece? Last edited by Rick; 15th January 2007 at 02:51 PM.

14th January 2007, 08:28 AM	#4
Pangeran Datu Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 79	REMINDER!! Forum policy Hi, Please ensure that the item you are listng is not under any current online auction listing, as I believe that it would violate forum policy. My sincere apologies if I am mistaken Regards,

14th January 2007, 11:47 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Brian, The Dapur looks like Tilam Upih to me, with a tikel alis (eyelash) above the gandik area. The mendak (hilt ring) looks like a simplified meniran form. The hilt is a Maduran Donoriko form, probably made of ivory in this case. As for age, it's hard to tell but I reckon this piece have some age to it. The blade surface have rust to it. Perhaps with proper cleaning, more detail could be given. If you don't mind, could you post more all-round pictures of the hilt. More details could be told of this beautiful hilt. Last edited by Alam Shah; 15th January 2007 at 08:21 AM.

15th January 2007, 02:51 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Closed This thread is closed; this is an active ebay auction. Osubrac you are suspended for 10 days; please read the forum rules and guidelines. Rick

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14th January 2007, 03:14 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, Looks like a Madura keris with ivory ukiran. Dapur looks like brodjol, I can't tell what pamor it may be. Very nice, do you have a scabbard? Emanuel

14th January 2007, 04:11 AM	#3
osubrac Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	Thanks for the info, no scabbard. How old is it? Brian

14th January 2007, 08:40 AM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Brian, It is very hard to tell how old a keris is. Sometimes it is possible according to dapur and other characteristics to make a guess from what period a blade is. But i think this blade has some age. To tell you what pamor type it is is very difficult. The pictures are not sharp enough to see the details on the lower part of the blade. And if I judge the condition of the blade, it looks rather rusty and because of that the pamor has disapeared for a large part. To get the pamor out again the blade should be washed with warangan, but that should be done by somebody who is really able to do that. How long is the blade? If that is a measuringstaff in cm, it is a real smal blade. Looks like you have a pat rem, a woman's keris.