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This "Pala" just sold on eBay for $4K (Item# 280935749770). The handle and crossguard are new. Anyone else thinks the blade is new? The buyer obviously did not realize it:-(
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These are not my specialty. However, the wootz does remind me of the "eye" swirl of the modern Indian stuff. Still........maybe real.
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This was on my Watch List.
Then as it neared closing, it was on my Watch-Like-This --> ![]() That's a lot of cheddar for something so... clean. I actually had a number in mind I was willing to gamble for it, but it didn't just pass that number... it laughed at it dismissively as it tore right past it at wide open throttle. |
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Yep, a new piece. Infact, Kult of Athena website sells one very similar. What a shame really, totally not worth 4k.
On the other hand, the saif that went for 3k was actually owned by a shaikh in the past, congrats to whoever won it :-) |
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I'm gonna go with newer, it is not wootz but pattern welded damascus steel. $4k imo is lots of cheddar for this item.
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Good catch as always Alex.
Signes of etched 'grey' even under the hilt scales, no wear, no oxidisation, no patina etc. But very nice work on the blade. The day is nearly here when pattern welded blades will all be suspect. |
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I also noticed that upon second look the koftgari is more of the newer wire style used in India today. |
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![]() I tried to get it, but has been quickly out of bid ... ![]() to far in consideration of my financial abilities ![]() à + Dom |
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It is easy to blame the seller. But most, if not all, responsibility shall be on the buyer. With this particular Kilij, any "collector" should be able to spot the fake. If not, they're not ready to collect, and need to gain more experience, knowledge and expertise before plunging their money.
To A.alnakkas - as for the "other saif": any evidences that it was "actually owned by the sheikh"? The blade decorations are awfully crude and low-quality. What makes this sword any good? |
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too many times I saw bid going over than 1K U$ for brand new "pala" displayed in Syria for less than 280U$ ... before bargain ![]() we can do nothing to alert these people, they should check by themselves before buying but it's a real shame that these vendors, who are dishonest in the descriptions, for example; - describe it as, ancient weapon, having seen many fights ... ![]() but they never give a date or era, playing on the "fuzzy" for, to don't be accused of cheating ![]() à + Dom |
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Re Indian pala,
Gentlemen,I have been patiently reading all the treads in re Turkish /ottoman edged weapons.I find some remerkable good comments as well as some ridicilous ones.On this occation (the Indiian made pala ) all is new ,ıt is a cheap imitation including the cross guard.Please give a good look to the Koftgariwork ,3rd class ,nothing to do with Ottomans.Similar were up on sale at some of the famous Auction houses.I warned two of them and the items were delisted, Regards to all Yataganman |
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