Keris Jambi?

VVV · 8th November 2006, 07:12 PM

I just recieved this Keris and would appreciate if you could help me with your comments.
To me it looks like the hilt is from Jambi?
But I only have a few references from there.
Unfortunately no sheath.

Michael

Lew · 8th November 2006, 07:20 PM

Sweet!

Very nice find.

Lew

VVV · 9th November 2006, 10:45 AM

Thanks Lew,

Cute hilt with large eyes.
My 9 year old daughter loves it.

Any comments about origin, blade, cultural background etc?

Michael

Alam Shah · 9th November 2006, 01:01 PM

I've seen a similar profiled hilt, here: Labelled as Minangkabau...

http://www.jbarkerarts.com/special.php?artID=036

Not much help. But it's a start...

VVV · 9th November 2006, 01:31 PM

Thanks Shahrial,

On that site I also found this "Bima hilt" so maybe their classifications aren't so accurate?

http://www.jbarkerarts.com/special.php?artID=057

But it's nice to know that there are other hilts like mine.
I know I have seen the same hilt somewehere else but can't remember where?
I think it was in a Keris book but couldn't find it before I posted?

Michael

Alam Shah · 9th November 2006, 02:04 PM

You may wish to get a copy of this book about Traditional weapons of people from Jambi region. It's in Bahasa Indonesian, but does have pictures and maps.

Title: Senjata Tradisional Masyarakat Daerah Jambi
Authors : Navarin Karim, Hari Purnomo, Irwan Budiman.
Publisher [Jakarta] : Department of Education and Culture, Director General Cultural, History and Traditional Values, Project Research Cultural Values (Indonesia), 1993.

I'll be looking it up in the Reference Library, when I can find the time...

.

VVV · 9th November 2006, 03:21 PM

Thanks Shahrial!

Michael

BluErf · 11th November 2006, 01:57 AM

Adni had a 'related' keris and hulu come in a while back.

Related in the sense that the hulu shares the same 'receded' nose and protruding 'forehead', but not as exaggerated as the keris above. The blade on this example is also very interesting in that it is so slim and lanky. I would only say probably not Minang, not Palembang.

Ah, this is a very grey area for me.

VVV · 11th November 2006, 05:42 AM

Thanks Kai Wee,

I noticed that the horisontal V-cut also is seen on Jambi hilts.
Like on my Sekin below.
I have seen a Jambi Keris with an almost identical hilt like this in one of the antique stores in Copenhagen.

What do you think about the blade?

Why are there so few Keris classified as typical Jambi?
Did they mostly carry Keris from other regions (Bugis, Minangkabau)?

Michael

David · 11th November 2006, 07:21 AM

Kai Wee, that last blade you posted almost looks Balinese to me.

VVV · 13th November 2006, 11:31 AM

I have checked some more on the Jambi origin and I am quite convinced that this is the case.
Additional pictures and comments on this Keris is now up on Kampungnet.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

8th November 2006, 07:12 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Keris Jambi? I just recieved this Keris and would appreciate if you could help me with your comments. To me it looks like the hilt is from Jambi? But I only have a few references from there. Unfortunately no sheath. Michael Attached Images

9th November 2006, 02:04 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Reference book on Jambi's weapons... You may wish to get a copy of this book about Traditional weapons of people from Jambi region. It's in Bahasa Indonesian, but does have pictures and maps. Title: Senjata Tradisional Masyarakat Daerah Jambi Authors : Navarin Karim, Hari Purnomo, Irwan Budiman. Publisher [Jakarta] : Department of Education and Culture, Director General Cultural, History and Traditional Values, Project Research Cultural Values (Indonesia), 1993. I'll be looking it up in the Reference Library, when I can find the time... .

11th November 2006, 01:57 AM	#8
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Adni had a 'related' keris and hulu come in a while back. Related in the sense that the hulu shares the same 'receded' nose and protruding 'forehead', but not as exaggerated as the keris above. The blade on this example is also very interesting in that it is so slim and lanky. I would only say probably not Minang, not Palembang. Ah, this is a very grey area for me. Attached Images

11th November 2006, 05:42 AM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Kai Wee, I noticed that the horisontal V-cut also is seen on Jambi hilts. Like on my Sekin below. I have seen a Jambi Keris with an almost identical hilt like this in one of the antique stores in Copenhagen. What do you think about the blade? Why are there so few Keris classified as typical Jambi? Did they mostly carry Keris from other regions (Bugis, Minangkabau)? Michael Attached Images

8th November 2006, 07:20 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Sweet! Very nice find. Lew

9th November 2006, 10:45 AM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Lew, Cute hilt with large eyes. My 9 year old daughter loves it. Any comments about origin, blade, cultural background etc? Michael

9th November 2006, 01:01 PM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	I've seen a similar profiled hilt, here: Labelled as Minangkabau... http://www.jbarkerarts.com/special.php?artID=036 Not much help. But it's a start...

9th November 2006, 01:31 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Shahrial, On that site I also found this "Bima hilt" so maybe their classifications aren't so accurate? http://www.jbarkerarts.com/special.php?artID=057 But it's nice to know that there are other hilts like mine. I know I have seen the same hilt somewehere else but can't remember where? I think it was in a Keris book but couldn't find it before I posted? Michael

9th November 2006, 03:21 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Shahrial! Michael

11th November 2006, 07:21 AM	#10
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,204	Kai Wee, that last blade you posted almost looks Balinese to me.

13th November 2006, 11:31 AM	#11
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I have checked some more on the Jambi origin and I am quite convinced that this is the case. Additional pictures and comments on this Keris is now up on Kampungnet. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php Michael