Old Indonesian dagger for comment

Lew · 28th July 2006, 07:44 PM

Hi All

Just picked this up today is it Sumatran/Aceh

http://cgi.ebay.com/19thC-Eastern-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem

Lew

Rick · 28th July 2006, 08:12 PM

It looks like it is Lew .
Nice simple functional piece .

Freddy · 28th July 2006, 08:18 PM

Yep, it looks like a good rencong. Nice find

kai · 28th July 2006, 09:57 PM

Hi Lew,

Definitely a good buy: blade seems to be in good condition and with a traditional scabbard including inked decoration!

I'd guess that the hilt is made out of waterbuffalo horn but better have a close look...

BTW, no cracks on the hilt? If so, be especially careful not to let it dry out too much (many horn hilts have split due to shrinkage).

Regards,
Kai

Ferguson · 29th July 2006, 03:10 AM

Simple and elegant.

The traditional knife of the Aceh people.

Steve

katana · 29th July 2006, 09:04 PM

Functionality without to much embellishment/decoration ....my sort of knife..
well done Lou

Henk · 30th July 2006, 08:53 AM

A good rencong from Aceh. A very nice piece. Congrats!

utami · 9th August 2006, 03:52 AM

congrats, this rencong is in a very good condition. Beauty

Lew · 9th August 2006, 05:09 PM

The dagger arrived today here are a few pics.

Lew

RhysMichael · 9th August 2006, 08:21 PM

A nice rencong. You may have already seens this from Barbara Leigh's book on Aceh crafts "Hands of Time"
Acehnese say that the rencong takes the shape of the invocation, "Bismillaah In the name of God, the merciful and compassionate."

According to Drs. Syamsuddin and Drs. Nur Abbas of the Department of Education and Culture in Aceh, the component parts of the rencong can be likened to individual letters of the formal Arabic script huruf gundul, literally bare lettering, of the phrase Bismillaah

The hilt of the rencong is in the shape of "ba"
The decoration at the base of the hilt is "sin"
The blade's shape is "mim"
The shape of the metal parts at the top of the blade is "lam"
The base of the scabbard has the shape of the letter "ha"
Together, "ba, sin, mim, lam and ha" make up the world, "Bismillaah"

mmontoro · 10th August 2006, 01:25 AM

Very nice example and a good deal, too. This was a good post on the UBB forum on these, explaining the grip and "L" shaped appendage well. Scroll down to Tom Kehoe's posts. His silat teacher is in the SF area and very respected.

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000746.html

28th July 2006, 07:44 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Old Indonesian dagger for comment Hi All Just picked this up today is it Sumatran/Aceh http://cgi.ebay.com/19thC-Eastern-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem Lew

9th August 2006, 05:09 PM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	The dagger arrived today here are a few pics. Lew Attached Images

28th July 2006, 08:12 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	It looks like it is Lew . Nice simple functional piece .

28th July 2006, 08:18 PM	#3
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Yep, it looks like a good rencong. Nice find

28th July 2006, 09:57 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hi Lew, Definitely a good buy: blade seems to be in good condition and with a traditional scabbard including inked decoration! I'd guess that the hilt is made out of waterbuffalo horn but better have a close look... BTW, no cracks on the hilt? If so, be especially careful not to let it dry out too much (many horn hilts have split due to shrinkage). Regards, Kai

29th July 2006, 03:10 AM	#5
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Simple and elegant. The traditional knife of the Aceh people. Steve

29th July 2006, 09:04 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Functionality without to much embellishment/decoration ....my sort of knife.. well done Lou

30th July 2006, 08:53 AM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	A good rencong from Aceh. A very nice piece. Congrats!

9th August 2006, 03:52 AM	#8
utami Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Java, Indonesia Posts: 49	congrats, this rencong is in a very good condition. Beauty

9th August 2006, 08:21 PM	#10
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	A nice rencong. You may have already seens this from Barbara Leigh's book on Aceh crafts "Hands of Time" Acehnese say that the rencong takes the shape of the invocation, "Bismillaah In the name of God, the merciful and compassionate." According to Drs. Syamsuddin and Drs. Nur Abbas of the Department of Education and Culture in Aceh, the component parts of the rencong can be likened to individual letters of the formal Arabic script huruf gundul, literally bare lettering, of the phrase Bismillaah The hilt of the rencong is in the shape of "ba" The decoration at the base of the hilt is "sin" The blade's shape is "mim" The shape of the metal parts at the top of the blade is "lam" The base of the scabbard has the shape of the letter "ha" Together, "ba, sin, mim, lam and ha" make up the world, "Bismillaah"

10th August 2006, 01:25 AM	#11
mmontoro Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	Very nice example and a good deal, too. This was a good post on the UBB forum on these, explaining the grip and "L" shaped appendage well. Scroll down to Tom Kehoe's posts. His silat teacher is in the SF area and very respected. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000746.html