KINDJAL?? QAMA?? FOR COMMENT

kahnjar1 · 9th September 2008, 08:50 AM

Picked this up recently and would like some information please as to age, origins etc. Also comment on the blade mark. The top and bottom section of the scabbard is solid niello silver and the middle section pierced silver over leather.
Size 24 3/4" overall with a 17 7/8" blade.
Regards Stuart

Dmitry · 1st December 2009, 07:16 PM

Beautiful piece.
My knowledge of the kindjals is one small step above rudimentary. To me the blade looks Georgian, perhaps by a Tiflis maker. The mounts are in the Northern Caucasus style.

Gess · 1st December 2009, 10:22 PM

Nothing to do with the Caucasus and Tiflis. Turkish dagger.

ariel · 2nd December 2009, 12:43 AM

Without holding it in my hands, I suspect that the silverwork is new and assembled from different pieces: look how the middle panel differs from other ones.

kahnjar1 · 2nd December 2009, 04:26 AM

Interesting----I was about to repost this as I got no response before. The centre panel is certainly an addition. OK we have 2 differing opinions as to origin. What is reason for the attribution to Turkey?---and to Caucasus? I had been told it came from Dagistan and dated to around 1910.
The niello is NOT new and apart from the centre section the piece looks to be all made at one time and not a combination of "bits".
Regards Stuart

Gess · 2nd December 2009, 12:17 PM

Here's my "Turk", purchased on eBay.
Of course, the more coarse imitation of Damascus, but ... you should look.
False damascus etch in valleys blade.

9th September 2008, 08:50 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,772	KINDJAL?? QAMA?? FOR COMMENT Picked this up recently and would like some information please as to age, origins etc. Also comment on the blade mark. The top and bottom section of the scabbard is solid niello silver and the middle section pierced silver over leather. Size 24 3/4" overall with a 17 7/8" blade. Regards Stuart Attached Images

2nd December 2009, 12:17 PM	#6
Gess Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 44	Here's my "Turk", purchased on eBay. Of course, the more coarse imitation of Damascus, but ... you should look. False damascus etch in valleys blade. Attached Images

1st December 2009, 07:16 PM	#2
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Beautiful piece. My knowledge of the kindjals is one small step above rudimentary. To me the blade looks Georgian, perhaps by a Tiflis maker. The mounts are in the Northern Caucasus style.

1st December 2009, 10:22 PM	#3
Gess Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 44	Nothing to do with the Caucasus and Tiflis. Turkish dagger.

2nd December 2009, 12:43 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Without holding it in my hands, I suspect that the silverwork is new and assembled from different pieces: look how the middle panel differs from other ones.

2nd December 2009, 04:26 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,772	Interesting----I was about to repost this as I got no response before. The centre panel is certainly an addition. OK we have 2 differing opinions as to origin. What is reason for the attribution to Turkey?---and to Caucasus? I had been told it came from Dagistan and dated to around 1910. The niello is NOT new and apart from the centre section the piece looks to be all made at one time and not a combination of "bits". Regards Stuart