Two uninvited keris for comments

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

But there is a problem in that Kebo Dengen should be Luk Lima & it should not have an ada-ada.

I find that whenever i find a more than basic Kebo keris it becomes rather difficult toi match it exactly to any of the pakem diagrams i have seen of the forms. There is always something that is not quite like what the pakem diagram shows.
And when i google Kebo Dengen i am finding lots of keris that don't even seem to be in the Kebo family (i.e. no elongated gandik). So go figure, eh?