Extraordinary  I have to agree with Lew.   Okay one is rather long but both are not rare, every day things really and poor, very poor like some of the bad African stuff {sadly a have to admit there are some}  I do not think it is a good thing.  Rather like very common and nothing special or rare or craftsmanship kaskara, Kukri, dha, talwar and so many others just turn out to be a waste of money.  perhaps I am just a sad old man.   
