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Old 15th December 2004, 01:41 AM   #23
erlikhan
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Yannis, sorry but I only feel fun against your subjectiveness and aggresiveness. You just confirm what I told before by your attitude.
What occupation in 1943?? Do you confuse Istanbul with Greece who was occupied by Germans? No occupation occured in Istanbul in 1943 at all! And nothing happened in 1956 too. Perhaps you meant to say 1955? Vast Greek majority in Istanbul, capitol of Ottoman Turkey??lol. It never happened since 1453 when immidiately Turkish population was established after conquering the city, and in 1922 , 1 million Greeks and 500 thousand Turks were exchanged between two countries. In Istanbul ,after that exchange, Greeks were only 100000 in a total of 500000 .In 1955 some civil riots against Greek stores and estates occured, like several ones which occured to Turkish majority in "Western Trakya " region of Greece, in towns like Gumulcine and Iskece , last in a very close date:1989! Even in 90ties,an effective parliament from Turkish minority was killed in an obviously "arranged" accident,not? Do you know how many Turkish civilians were massacred in Greece between 1821 and 1913?? Hundreds of thousands. One of my old relatives always told until she died, how they ran to Turkey through mountains in 1912 winter escaping from death by Greek soldiers following them and killing when they catch. To stay alive, they ate the ones who couldnt stand the conditions and died .
Macedonia was not found by Tito. Macedonia vilayet - state of Ottomans included soil from today's Greece, Macedonia and as far as I know, little part of western Bulgaria. All this region was named Macedonia. Today's Greek part is southern Macedonia, and the other is northern.
And we call Efes, not a city that reached to Turkish period. We call just an archeological ruin and at least we keep it,like the Byzantian city walls of Istanbul. What about more than 30, some very big mosques in Athens constructed in Ottoman time or other buildings in all Greece? None survived . Athens was a Turkish ruled city for centuries, but now it is the only capitol in Europe which doesn't have a mosque . Not strange?
Konya was founded by Hittites or before, having ruins of even neolithic age.There were cities and states in all today's Turkey , before Greece itself was founded. Greeks had been living before us in some parts of the country, but there were others before Greeks for thousands of years. So what?
Mevlana can be a Turk, or Persian , or anything he wishes to be. He wrote in both Turkish and Persian but I dont care at all. You can own him too if you wish, no problem for me. As I said, I saw many examples before like carbon copied with you, being educated with systematical hatred and having logics shaped exactly same, and and can gladly discuss to spend some free time but this forum is not the appropriate place for it. If we continue it ,we will cause just pollution here. You can email to taserserzer@yahoo.com if you have something different to discuss.
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