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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Ferry, please do not misunderstand me.
I am not criticising your keris, nor am I criticising you.
I am simply saying that if a dhapur is fixed, then that dhapur cannot vary in the assemblage of its ricikan. It cannot vary by even the slightest degree, if it does, it no longer conforms to the parameters for that particular dhapur, within the relevant pakem.
Your keris is a very nicely made keris, no doubt of it. The pawakan and ron dha are Surakarta, thus it must be considered to be a Surakarta keris. However, regretably it does not comply with the Surakarta pakem.
Perhaps we could avoid this small deficiency if we were to say that it is a keris of dhapur mandhurang, in accordance with the pakem of Mr. Haryono Haryoguritno.
By giving the pakem for reference all difference of opinion can be avoided.
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Alan, I'm perfectly understand that you're not criticising my keris, nor criticising on me.
your point is on the dhapur, this keris has ricikan which not suitable compared to the book 'dhapur'. since My personal understanding do not always from keraton point of view, then I only believe and acomodate the knowledge from what I can see and hold. In this case, I never saw and hold keraton keris. generally speaking in keris community here in Indonesia, we mention this keris as dhapur mundarang. as weel as pasopati dhapur with two ron dha plus ron dha nunut, compared with the book 'dhapur' which illustrated tha pasopati dhapur only having one ron dha with out ron dha nunut.
We all understand perfectly that keris are made widely by empus inside and outside the keraton it self. for the empus outside the keraton, it is possible, they we not fully acknowledge or aware about this pakem determined/drawed in the book 'dhapur' (1920), Since the book it self didn't ment to be published. so how could the empus possibly know about the determined ricikan. I think that is a reasonable execuse and a trully reasonable reason why the keris did'nt made exactly like the book 'dhapur' illustrated.
do I make my self quite reasonable now. I'm trying to defend my opinion regarding this ron dha nunut matter.
I was trying to find another opinion regarding this keris age. not the tangguh, only an estimation whether this is an old one or not. then you gave a more interesting topic to discuss.
Alan, from this pictures, Do you have an opinion on its age? just an estimation or any thing. here are some more pictures for observation.
Regards,
FERRYLAKI