I do not wish to derail this historical discussion on Cirebon, which i find quite interesting, but if i redirect to the original question and look back on this thread i think it is still a bit confusing as to exactly what wesi malela is. It means black iron, but iron is often black when a blade is properly stained. What differentiates wesi malela from other iron? Is it merely the ore source? Rick has shown an example of an all black iron blade with no pamor which i have often heard referred to as kelangan, but from the the othetr photos shown can i assume that a wesi malela blade can also have a nickel pamor?