G'day
David,BluErf,A G Maisey Thank you for setting me straight. I had thought I must have been stating the obvious regarding origin

I would rather know what I have, rather than think I have something I do not. It also makes me question the suggested origins of all the pieces in my small collection I acquired enmasse.
I shall post pieces individually in an effort to determine their correct origin and age.
17 1/2 in appx for both blades length, not including tang.
3/4 in thick at base. both pieces, to me, seem robust and well tempered
Thank you again for your candour and clarity.
Kind regards,
Daniel