[Spunjer]

you still haven't answered my question, which is, how definitive are you that these alleged pictures you saw from smithsonian were old?

Baganing balyan-I think the krises collected or photographed by the smithsonian institution in 1900's were actually older.

was it carbon-dated? Any dates etched or carved? If there are, are they Islamic or christian dating? does it show the date they were collected, put in the museum, sold, found or what?


regarding ivory, yesterday you said:

Spunjer's kris is a suspect because of the ivory head of the handle-- that is if it's really an ivory. Philippines has no source of Ivory. There are lumads who still wear ivory bracelets but they don't know the source. Upon inspections, I believe it could be traced back to India

and then you came with this revelation:

For example: chinese ivory trade in prespanish and during the early spanish colonization was rampant among the native of palawan and other lumad areas.

and this:

then in 19th century, europeans monopolized the ivory trade in the area of java, sumatra, and sulu. That's the reason too why javan elephants disappeared.

i thought you said philippines has no source of ivory???


so which is it? or are you making this up as you go along?

Hence, you cannot see an entire kris handle made of ivory.

pictures?

well, got to go...