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spiral · 23rd March 2005, 09:11 AM

Hi Derek, A nice bunch of kukris!

Well not sure what info you are looking for, but here goes. from top down.

1,
hard to be certain of shape of this one due to angle of the photograph, quite possibly a style carried in WW2 though, {alyhough made both before & after the war as well.}
would need to see an un angled photo shot, to be more confident in my oppinions.

length, weight & point of balance { when lying flat on its side on your finger, defined as a point of measured distance in front of the bolster/blade conjunction. would all assist as would any pix of grip, bolster, small knives, scabbard stitching etc. etc.

Is the handle buffalo horn ? it looks probable? but pix are tricky sometimes!

2,
A typical Darjeeling style Sirupate, civilian post ww2, although Darjeeling is In India , it has a large population of Gurkha descent & as is often the case , has a strong natnalist movement that wishes to seperate from India.

Historicaly the borders of Nepal & India have moved many times & ther have been many population shifts amongst the tribes of Nepal & not forgeting the Garhwallis & Kuamon of course, Indian tribes that used to be inlisted in the Gurkha units many years ago & who also carry the kukri, add to that the massive Gurkha garrisons stationed in many areas of India & it becomes quite a complex picture.

I dont think double stamping would mean reject, just an idiosincracy of the stamping process or individul doing the stamping.

What makes you think it may be a reject? Is ther some serious flaw within its construction?

3,
It looks like an early British Indian mk.2, Although these were made up to & during WW2, Yours definatly Appears to be WW1 style . {Actualy made untill 1920.{rather than 1918

} rather than later.

I find it hard to make out the tiny numbers on the kukri.com photo site but to me m.47 looks a later shouldered military model, without the smooth curve to the blade, with steel instead of brass rivets & single wide prounounced rounded finger projection. A totaly different beast to my eye, although obviously until the site is actualy working with the posibilitie of larger photos , it will be very hard to be totaly certain.

4,
An unusual brass Kothimara ,probably not incredibly expensive, with a one piece chape & locket combined.which I would say was post WW2. I like the Hindu sun god & crescent moon symbol, both of which of course important Nepali symbols.{Although used by other countrys as well of course.}

Hope thats of some intrest, Derek if you want any further comment from me feel free to ask either , here, or by email.

regards,
Spiral

23rd March 2005, 09:11 AM	#42
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Hi Derek, A nice bunch of kukris! Well not sure what info you are looking for, but here goes. from top down. 1, hard to be certain of shape of this one due to angle of the photograph, quite possibly a style carried in WW2 though, {alyhough made both before & after the war as well.} would need to see an un angled photo shot, to be more confident in my oppinions. length, weight & point of balance { when lying flat on its side on your finger, defined as a point of measured distance in front of the bolster/blade conjunction. would all assist as would any pix of grip, bolster, small knives, scabbard stitching etc. etc. Is the handle buffalo horn ? it looks probable? but pix are tricky sometimes! 2, A typical Darjeeling style Sirupate, civilian post ww2, although Darjeeling is In India , it has a large population of Gurkha descent & as is often the case , has a strong natnalist movement that wishes to seperate from India. Historicaly the borders of Nepal & India have moved many times & ther have been many population shifts amongst the tribes of Nepal & not forgeting the Garhwallis & Kuamon of course, Indian tribes that used to be inlisted in the Gurkha units many years ago & who also carry the kukri, add to that the massive Gurkha garrisons stationed in many areas of India & it becomes quite a complex picture. I dont think double stamping would mean reject, just an idiosincracy of the stamping process or individul doing the stamping. What makes you think it may be a reject? Is ther some serious flaw within its construction? 3, It looks like an early British Indian mk.2, Although these were made up to & during WW2, Yours definatly Appears to be WW1 style . {Actualy made untill 1920.{rather than 1918 } rather than later. I find it hard to make out the tiny numbers on the kukri.com photo site but to me m.47 looks a later shouldered military model, without the smooth curve to the blade, with steel instead of brass rivets & single wide prounounced rounded finger projection. A totaly different beast to my eye, although obviously until the site is actualy working with the posibilitie of larger photos , it will be very hard to be totaly certain. 4, An unusual brass Kothimara ,probably not incredibly expensive, with a one piece chape & locket combined.which I would say was post WW2. I like the Hindu sun god & crescent moon symbol, both of which of course important Nepali symbols.{Although used by other countrys as well of course.} Hope thats of some intrest, Derek if you want any further comment from me feel free to ask either , here, or by email. regards, Spiral Last edited by spiral; 23rd March 2005 at 02:04 PM.