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Old 16th January 2007, 05:19 PM   #152
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I believe it would also be helpful for this conversation if you could accurately define what you actually mean when you use the word "satanic".
I still believe it would be helpful to our understanding of your position if you were able to answer the above question so that we can avoid any semantical inaccuracies. Obviously you haven't really given the question all that much thought.
Yes, this dagger IS what it IS, regardless of opinions on EITHER side of the river.
What you have shown is not "empirical evidence", it is merely opinionated theory. Though valuable it is not the same thing.
You have been presented with a great deal of evidence that reversed crosses do not necessarily imply satanism or even anti-church sentiment (cross of St. Peter?). I have never heard of nor have you provided ANY record where an upside down CHURCH is used as a sign of satanism.Skull and cross bones, owls, greenmen, ALL have very different and non'satanic meanings in 19th, 18th, 17th century Europe. EVERY element of your dagger though, fits VERY neatly into the story of the Hunchback of Notre Dame. This is not empirical evidence, merely observation and reason. Yet still it is well researched and valuable. However, you continue to respond to the combined researches of certain forum membership here with condescension, distain and disrespect. You continue to dismiss any thought that does not fit neatly into you own preconcieved ideas of what your dagger is. If we disagree with you we are merely a bunch of uninformed idiots blowing a lot of hot air. Therefore i don't see why we should continue with this thread as nothing we come up with short of agreement that yours is a true and bonfide "satanic dagger" will suffice. I therefore suggest we lock this thread and move on before someone says what they really feel.
Let's move on, there is nothing to see here.
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