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BluErf · 11th December 2006, 02:35 PM

Hi Rick,

Well, I've given up trying to ascertain the age, but I think it is probably not very old.

Hi David,

Thanks. This is definitely no high keris, and it came at a "not high" price, though I'd be a little bit hesitant to say cheap. The keris is, as Empu Kumis (sorry, forgot his latest forum nick) once said, a nice piece for a collection, but not a great one.

Hi Alan,

Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, the hilt is a Yogya hilt, as the seller had informed me.

However, this is the closest form to a East Javanese hilt that I can find. The original hilt on the singa barong is too large and very ugly. I guess I'll have to have a "redux redux" when I can find a small-sized East Javanese hilt that can fit the proportionately long peksi.

I know what you are referring to. I spent a long time scrutinising the singa's points of connection to the blade when I first bought the keris and I do see some disjointed lines. However, that does not apply to the tail, which is definitely part of the original keris body. So unless only the body was welded on to the remnants of the blade, from which the tail was carved. Whoever is doing these things are good...

But just a point for thought - could it be a possibility that the original keris pandai made the keris like that - make the billet for the keris, and add material to the gandik for the singa?

11th December 2006, 02:35 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Rick, Well, I've given up trying to ascertain the age, but I think it is probably not very old. Hi David, Thanks. This is definitely no high keris, and it came at a "not high" price, though I'd be a little bit hesitant to say cheap. The keris is, as Empu Kumis (sorry, forgot his latest forum nick) once said, a nice piece for a collection, but not a great one. Hi Alan, Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, the hilt is a Yogya hilt, as the seller had informed me. However, this is the closest form to a East Javanese hilt that I can find. The original hilt on the singa barong is too large and very ugly. I guess I'll have to have a "redux redux" when I can find a small-sized East Javanese hilt that can fit the proportionately long peksi. I know what you are referring to. I spent a long time scrutinising the singa's points of connection to the blade when I first bought the keris and I do see some disjointed lines. However, that does not apply to the tail, which is definitely part of the original keris body. So unless only the body was welded on to the remnants of the blade, from which the tail was carved. Whoever is doing these things are good... But just a point for thought - could it be a possibility that the original keris pandai made the keris like that - make the billet for the keris, and add material to the gandik for the singa?