So that raises another question: is the one in this picture a shotel, or is it actually one of the long Jille you describe Martin?
I have one of the much more sickle shaped shotels and this one, and they are incredibly different things. The one in the first picture is quite thin and light, and can only be used one way, with the curve on the outside, whereas the sickle shaped sword shown at the bottom of the picture below is thick and hefty, and could be used in either configuration with the curve facing out or in.
Of course, the top one in that picture would be a gurade, and Ii guess this one would be a saif:
