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Old 4th January 2025, 02:49 AM   #9
Jim McDougall
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Thank you so much for the kind words Drac!!!!
I am more obsessive researcher than 'scholar' , and these 'Berber' sabers have intrigued me since I acquired one back in the 90s. leading to years of research. Back then virtually nobody I knew of knew quite what these were.
Finally when a few turned up in sales and auctions, they seemed to be situated in Mexican gulf areas and finally in the Caribbean.

Still the initial notations that these were 'Berber' remained the key classification, and when Mr. Tirri's comprehensive book in 2004 showed these as having been used in the Rif wars in Morocco (1921-26) it was seen how the Berber classification came about.

As has been noted here, these were basically stylized hilts mounted with typically old British light cavalry 1796 blades with reprofiled tips, and indeed associated with Guanabacoa in Cuba and some were marked in accord with Dominican regions. Apparently these repurposed blades were for use as a machete and the type became popular through the 19th century.

The 'Spanish Main' was quite alive and well from early 1800s in the Caribbean and Americas and British blades were prevalent there and many Spanish colonial swords were mounted with them.

There is no doubt of course that these in degree reached the Spanish domains in the Philippines in their trade networks, so these could easily have been present in those regions as claimed.
However the 'poison' thing is pure auction/sale hyperbole probably derived from the poison tipped arrows and spears used by natives in those regions for hunting.

As already well indicated by the other entries here, these interesting sabers were machete type swords from the Dominican Republic, Cuba and ports of call in Latin Americas and in use through the 19th c. As I have understood, the examples which ended up in the 'Berber' context were taken there by Cuban conscripts during the Rif wars, and discarded there. That they were not indiginous to these regions was suspected as they were never included in the profoundly comprehensive arms studies of Charles Buttin (1933) who lived in Morocco much of his life.

I just wanted to add these details, which were part of the wonderful adventures we shared here on these pages back in those early years of the forum
Very nice example, and I still have my example, and treasure it as a colorful example of the Spanish colonial periods and regions.
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