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Old 7th May 2024, 02:48 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey View Post
Yes, a sajen, no trace of Sombro in it.

Yes, old, but after the common use & understanding of the waved keris as a societal icon, so after the spread into general society of the waved keris, & that means after Islam as societal influence, possibly after Islamic dominance of Javanese society.

Ball park guess, after 1600.
Good point about the luk variety of this particular sajen. I was attempting to answer Omar's question more generally. Which came first, sajen or Sombro. Certainly the very early keris sajen are all lurus keris. That said i would love if you could expand on the concept that a sajen with luk would not have come into general society until Islamic times. Certainly there were keris with luk if the Mojopahit Hindu era.
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