[QUOTE=Marcokeris;281692]excuse me all, and I appeal to anyone who reads this topic. Please make the effort to enter my way of thinking for a moment...I promise you won't go crazy: 
 
1. I posted a kris (a kris of mine) reversed in the scabbard 
 
2. I was immediately told that a kris had never been seen in that position. I was alone 
3. I posted an old example, an example taken from vkf. Now I was no longer the only one but there were two of us 
4. I posted other examples... now we were no longer two but 2% 
5. I hypothesized the idea, I think with an unsubstantiated image, that the walikat could be the suitable scabbard for those types of kris if you want an insertion according to tradition 
6. Finally, I reiterated my thoughts with a last image. That is, it could also be according to tradition, that those dhapurs need a rotated head-to-tail insertion 
 
 
Final result: 
 
it is not possible to go against the rules of  Surakarta Karaton hierarchy or anak-anak ASKI. Not possible!  
Ok I accept these rules but I would like to see a written, a translation or visual proof of the rule that said that all the keris with these particular dhapur must be inserted in such traditional way
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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