Thank you Alan, that was really insightful.
I appreciate that your answers are repeating those you learned from instead of your own. I think that's the best possible way to approach this given the noise, nonsense and sensitivity that's often found whenever this topic is brought up.
I'm glad I asked the simpler question before diving headlong into ones about tuah because you answered all of them. But it does lead to this one:
In the belief of these people you've learned from, is a well-manufactured and within-pakem keris still a keris in the fullest sense if it was not made by an empu using the right rituals and mantras? For this question I'm mainly referring to Empu Suparman almarhum and others that shared his beliefs.
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