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VANDOO · 20th May 2006, 05:48 AM

I AM NOT WELL INFORMED ENOUGH TO SAY WHERE THE KERIS CAME FROM OR HOW OLD THEY ARE. I CAN SAY HOWEVER THAT I THINK THE PRICE THEY BROUGHT WAS NOT OUT OF REASON AND PERHAPS LOW, THEY CERTENALY DIDN'T GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

IN MY TRAVELS I HAVE OFTEN FOUND PEOPLE IN ALL KINDS OF POSITIONS MOONLIGHTING SELLING ANTIQUES, COINS,WATCHES, ECT. I HAVE BOUGHT FROM OR BEEN LED TO SELLERS BY GAURDS, MUSEUM EMPLOYEES,TAXI DRIVERS,HOTEL EMPLOYEES, RESTURANT EMPLOYEES AND STREET HUSTLERS. OFTEN THEY LEAD YOU TO A BUNCH OF POORLY MADE OR FAKE STUFF BUT IT IS ALWAYS AN ADVENTURE AND SOMETIMES PAYS OFF. JUST DON'T TAKE ANYTHING ALONG WITH YOU THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE.
PERSONALLY I LIKE TO KEEP THE STORY THAT OFTEN COMES WITH A PIECE EVEN IF IT IS BOGUS AND A RECORD OF HOW I AQUIRED IT

I WOULD BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS ON GOING ON THESE KIND OF EXCURSIONS THESE DAYS DUE TO CERTIAN GROUPS LOOKING TO KILL OR HARM FORIGNERS. ON MY LAST TRIP TO BALI THERE WAS A GROUP NOT FROM BALI HANGING AROUND WITH A VAN AND THEY TRIED TO GET ME TO GO WITH THEM TO SEE BALI SEVERAL TIMES. I NEVER SAW THEM ASK LOCALS OR DO ANY WORK BUT THEY WERE OFTEN THERE AND THOUGH THEY SMILED AND SPOKE ENGLISH THERE WAS A BAD FEELING AROUND THEM. IT WAS NOT LONG AFTER I WAS THERE THAT A CLUB I HAD BEEN TO WAS BOMBED. CON MEN, CON, THIEVES STEAL BUT ALL THESE GUYS DO IS MURDER SO DO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TRAVEL.

IT IS NOT UNLIKELY THAT A SECURITY PERSON OR OTHER EMPLOYEE AT A MUSEM OR PALACE MIGHT MAKE USE OF HIS ASSOCIATION TO SELL SOME KERIS FOR A BIT MORE THAN IT WOULD USUALLY GO FOR. EVEN IF THIS BIT OF INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ONE SHOULD KNOW THAT IT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THAT IT BELONGED TO A PERSON OF IMPORTANCE IN THE PAST. THAT IS ESPECIALLY EVIDENT WHEN YOU SEE A LOW OPENING PRICE ON A PLACE LIKE EBAY.

SO I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH MENTIONING WHERE IT WAS AQUIRED WITHOUT CLAIMING IT IS A ROYAL PUSAKA. IT DOSEN'T CAUSE ME TO PAY MORE FOR IT AS I ONLY BUY WHAT I LIKE REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNED IT OR WHERE IT CAME FROM. I AM NOT A KING SO WHY SHOULD I SEEK TO OWN THE BELONGINGS OF ONE UNLESS I LIKE IT, BUT THEN I AM ALSO NOT A DEALER LOOKING TO RESELL

IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO THROW GAS ON A POTENTIAL FIRE, I JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN HOW I SEE IT. I ADD A CAUTION BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOVED ADVENTURE IN MY YOUTH AND FORTUNATELY SURVIVED MANY RISKY ACTS BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD SINCE THEN SO DON'T LET THE URGE FOR ADVENTURE EVEN IN PARADISE PUT YOU IN DANGER.
IF THE MODERATIORS SEE ANYTHING I HAVE SAID TO BE A PROBLEM PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EDIT OR DELETE.

20th May 2006, 05:48 AM	#21
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I AM NOT WELL INFORMED ENOUGH TO SAY WHERE THE KERIS CAME FROM OR HOW OLD THEY ARE. I CAN SAY HOWEVER THAT I THINK THE PRICE THEY BROUGHT WAS NOT OUT OF REASON AND PERHAPS LOW, THEY CERTENALY DIDN'T GET TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. IN MY TRAVELS I HAVE OFTEN FOUND PEOPLE IN ALL KINDS OF POSITIONS MOONLIGHTING SELLING ANTIQUES, COINS,WATCHES, ECT. I HAVE BOUGHT FROM OR BEEN LED TO SELLERS BY GAURDS, MUSEUM EMPLOYEES,TAXI DRIVERS,HOTEL EMPLOYEES, RESTURANT EMPLOYEES AND STREET HUSTLERS. OFTEN THEY LEAD YOU TO A BUNCH OF POORLY MADE OR FAKE STUFF BUT IT IS ALWAYS AN ADVENTURE AND SOMETIMES PAYS OFF. JUST DON'T TAKE ANYTHING ALONG WITH YOU THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. PERSONALLY I LIKE TO KEEP THE STORY THAT OFTEN COMES WITH A PIECE EVEN IF IT IS BOGUS AND A RECORD OF HOW I AQUIRED IT I WOULD BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS ON GOING ON THESE KIND OF EXCURSIONS THESE DAYS DUE TO CERTIAN GROUPS LOOKING TO KILL OR HARM FORIGNERS. ON MY LAST TRIP TO BALI THERE WAS A GROUP NOT FROM BALI HANGING AROUND WITH A VAN AND THEY TRIED TO GET ME TO GO WITH THEM TO SEE BALI SEVERAL TIMES. I NEVER SAW THEM ASK LOCALS OR DO ANY WORK BUT THEY WERE OFTEN THERE AND THOUGH THEY SMILED AND SPOKE ENGLISH THERE WAS A BAD FEELING AROUND THEM. IT WAS NOT LONG AFTER I WAS THERE THAT A CLUB I HAD BEEN TO WAS BOMBED. CON MEN, CON, THIEVES STEAL BUT ALL THESE GUYS DO IS MURDER SO DO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TRAVEL. IT IS NOT UNLIKELY THAT A SECURITY PERSON OR OTHER EMPLOYEE AT A MUSEM OR PALACE MIGHT MAKE USE OF HIS ASSOCIATION TO SELL SOME KERIS FOR A BIT MORE THAN IT WOULD USUALLY GO FOR. EVEN IF THIS BIT OF INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ONE SHOULD KNOW THAT IT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THAT IT BELONGED TO A PERSON OF IMPORTANCE IN THE PAST. THAT IS ESPECIALLY EVIDENT WHEN YOU SEE A LOW OPENING PRICE ON A PLACE LIKE EBAY. SO I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH MENTIONING WHERE IT WAS AQUIRED WITHOUT CLAIMING IT IS A ROYAL PUSAKA. IT DOSEN'T CAUSE ME TO PAY MORE FOR IT AS I ONLY BUY WHAT I LIKE REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNED IT OR WHERE IT CAME FROM. I AM NOT A KING SO WHY SHOULD I SEEK TO OWN THE BELONGINGS OF ONE UNLESS I LIKE IT, BUT THEN I AM ALSO NOT A DEALER LOOKING TO RESELL IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO THROW GAS ON A POTENTIAL FIRE, I JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN HOW I SEE IT. I ADD A CAUTION BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOVED ADVENTURE IN MY YOUTH AND FORTUNATELY SURVIVED MANY RISKY ACTS BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD SINCE THEN SO DON'T LET THE URGE FOR ADVENTURE EVEN IN PARADISE PUT YOU IN DANGER. IF THE MODERATIORS SEE ANYTHING I HAVE SAID TO BE A PROBLEM PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EDIT OR DELETE.