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Mans · 28th December 2005, 06:32 PM

Hi Rizramon,
I agree with Nechesh that your keris is a new made.

1st keris called Bethok Budha.
It is a new keris, but processed with chemical in order to look as an aged keris.
The pamor called Kulit Semongko (WaterMelon skin), but actually difficult to described it. The pamor was worn-down because chemical processing.
For comparison : http://gallerykeris.fotopic.net/c791072.html (it is a processing keris Jalak Budha).

2nd keris is a quite new keris too. It has the pamor Udan Mas (Golden Rain). Nechesh is right. Very difficult to found the Old keris with pamor Udan Mas. If we found it, we must spend much money to get it. So that why many kerismaker producted the new keris with pamor Udan Mas. (Most wanted pamor

)
Unfortunately, you didn't add the overall pics. I don't know how many luk (waves) it has. So that the dapur can't described.
For comparison : http://keris.fotopic.net/c750780.html (it is an Old Keris with pamor Udan Mas. Estimated made from Tuban period - about 17th-18th century).

The Hulu/Hilt (Jawa = Deder/Ukiran), it has the Dragon (Naga) carved and the figure on Wayang (Puppets) story. At Jawa, the Dragon can be symbolized as guardian, protector, guard. But, I don't know the figure of Wayang on this Deder.

Sorry if any mistake.

Rgds,
Mans.

28th December 2005, 06:32 PM	#3
Mans Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Java Posts: 137	Hi Rizramon, I agree with Nechesh that your keris is a new made. 1st keris called Bethok Budha. It is a new keris, but processed with chemical in order to look as an aged keris. The pamor called Kulit Semongko (WaterMelon skin), but actually difficult to described it. The pamor was worn-down because chemical processing. For comparison : http://gallerykeris.fotopic.net/c791072.html (it is a processing keris Jalak Budha). 2nd keris is a quite new keris too. It has the pamor Udan Mas (Golden Rain). Nechesh is right. Very difficult to found the Old keris with pamor Udan Mas. If we found it, we must spend much money to get it. So that why many kerismaker producted the new keris with pamor Udan Mas. (Most wanted pamor ) Unfortunately, you didn't add the overall pics. I don't know how many luk (waves) it has. So that the dapur can't described. For comparison : http://keris.fotopic.net/c750780.html (it is an Old Keris with pamor Udan Mas. Estimated made from Tuban period - about 17th-18th century). The Hulu/Hilt (Jawa = Deder/Ukiran), it has the Dragon (Naga) carved and the figure on Wayang (Puppets) story. At Jawa, the Dragon can be symbolized as guardian, protector, guard. But, I don't know the figure of Wayang on this Deder. Sorry if any mistake. Rgds, Mans.