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					Originally Posted by Pusaka
					
				 
				 Anyway onwards and upwards, my purpose of making this thread is to establish if these keris markings follow numeric patterns, old vs newer, odd/even, 3,5,7,9 who knows maybe even numbers too. 
			
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 I am afraid i do not understand the purpose of your last link. It would also be helpful if you stuck to links in English unless you are willing to provide a translation for them. None of this seems to have anything to do with your self-proclaimed purpose for this thread. What exactly are we talking about anyway? What is it that you would like to find out here?