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Originally Posted by fernando
I guess that was at a later stage ... end XVIII beg. XIX century ... Peninsular war etc.
In an earlier period, they would come from Germany ... as many found in rapiers and cuphilt swords.
But i am no Guru in this (or other) area... may be talking nonsense 
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You are far too modest Nando! Ive known you too long for you to get away with that

and yes it was end of the 18th I was thinking of. Germany seems to have virtually always been the supercenter of arms and armour, despite the superb work produced in Italy and Spain in thier own eras.