Hi everbody and thank you for all for your good comments.
In my eyes the second is a good one and not for tourist but the stock had been to much cleaned .
Both have good and serious barrels ,for the lock I will remove and will take some pics from the second side.From the ioder lock the screw from the frizzen is very modern for the date is it strange the 1&7 seems good but I' m Aggree that the 8 is not so nice.
The Ramrod is a modern one and the first stock can't be very old .For the second one I guess it could be from the end of 19 th century.
Again sorry for my poor English I would like to tell more with more precision too..
Cerjak
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