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					Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
					
				 
				Actually David, Penangsang is pretty right about Senopati. 
			
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 Yes Alan, i am aware of some of the history here. That was why i suggested that establishing honor in the case of the court history of Jawa is often difficult at best.  
 
And this history is, as you say, a pretty good read with lots and lots of blood.