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Gustav · 1st October 2011, 07:02 AM

[QUOTE=kai]
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"Not sure this really is the result of reshaping. Charles, can we get a close-up of the base features from the other side?"

This line abowe Kembang Kacang is very suspicious to me, as are the whole proportions. Of course I see, this Sundang probably was never a very good work.

Is there a possibility, the whole Kembang Kacang was bigger, also with some dots? Actually the whole area looks disturbed to me. Just a speculation.

"BTW, it's common to see some broken off greneng, etc. but a completely recarved greneng area seems to be quite rare with Moro kris (as well as Malay keris sundang) - they generally are much stronger than with the keris of usual size."

The much to small incisions (size and frequency) abowe the dots look like secundary made or remains to me: I can not imagine, this is original state.

If you have a complete gusen on Greneng side (and here reshaping is clearly visible), you have space for external Greneng.

1st October 2011, 07:02 AM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	[QUOTE=kai] . "Not sure this really is the result of reshaping. Charles, can we get a close-up of the base features from the other side?" This line abowe Kembang Kacang is very suspicious to me, as are the whole proportions. Of course I see, this Sundang probably was never a very good work. Is there a possibility, the whole Kembang Kacang was bigger, also with some dots? Actually the whole area looks disturbed to me. Just a speculation. "BTW, it's common to see some broken off greneng, etc. but a completely recarved greneng area seems to be quite rare with Moro kris (as well as Malay keris sundang) - they generally are much stronger than with the keris of usual size." The much to small incisions (size and frequency) abowe the dots look like secundary made or remains to me: I can not imagine, this is original state. If you have a complete gusen on Greneng side (and here reshaping is clearly visible), you have space for external Greneng. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 1st October 2011 at 07:21 AM.