Hi Tim,
I placed the first (low) bid on these ....with a view of putting a 'proper' bid later ....and forgot
. Like you I believed these could be ceremonial ...my concern is that both seem to be in very good condition...as if 'unused' .(which made me think 'tourist' ) However, the pictures are poor ....good they went to a fellow formite.....fingers crossed they are early 20th.
Regards David