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Old 28th October 2010, 12:28 AM   #15
Gonzalo G
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Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha
Hmmm... Not sure how that bit of subjective historical interpretation found its way onto a forum intended for the discussion of ethnographic weapons, but as an 8th-generation Californio I can at least be grateful you left the Bear Flag Republic off your list. I might also add, the Spanish Californios shared in the creation of the vaquero tradition in their herding of the 400,000 cattle that were maintained by the Missions and privately-held rancheros.
Thank you for conffirming my "subjective" statements. Of course, "cowboying" has a spanish, and latter a ver mexican origins on this geographical strip (there were not cattle, horses or spurs in America before the spanish), from the Gul of México to the Pacific, but I was not sure if I should include California. Now I will. And cowboy tradition has a lot to do with the previous posts and with the subject of spurs, since it permits to identify stylistic origins, as it is in the case of the Texan saddle, spurs and hats. Naturally, Mexico and the USA always had a very strong intercultural influence, and this is not a shame.

There were not "spanish" in California when it passed to the USA in the mid 19th century, since Meico got its independence since 1821 and all the spaniards were expelled from the country, though in the USA to this day they call mexicans as "hipanic" and this creates conffussion about national identities.

On other side, the size and styling of those rowels is NOT privative from South America, and in fact were very comon in south of Mexico as they have the same spanish origin. Anybody can check it, as there is abundant iconography of Chinacos using that kind of spurs. It is true that there are a great deal of variations among them through the geographical space and time span, but those spurs were very common at the end of the 18th century, beginning of the19th century, and in the south Mexico there were used to the times of the French invasion.


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