I agree with you too in some way,
But is it forbidden to do "file-clerk game", "name game" (your term) in this forum? I know, you are more knowledgeable than us. But I think we can not avoid this plaything like this in the keris world. I still keep your words too, that "keris is kraton art"...
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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
The names of the various dhapurs are rooted in the past.
What has been driven home to me again, and again, and again over the years by a number of people, is that keris art is Karaton art, thus only a Karaton has the right and the obligation to bestow a name for a dhapur, or a pamor, upon a keris. Similarly, only a Karaton can determine if a keris is legitimate in its interpretations, or not.
It follows that within the area where a Karaton is paramount, only those keris which fall within the guidelines accepted by that Karaton can be accepted as legitimate representations of the Karaton's art..
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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
For this reason, I believe that if ever we wish to involve ourselves in this most extreme of all Name Games, which is the naming of the dhapur and pamor of a keris, we must at all times quote the pakem or reference that we are using as our guide.
To simply give an opinion is less than useless, no matter who gives that opinion, because no person now living can over-rule the parameters that have been previously set by a Ruler, except the current Ruler, and if the source of the opinion is not based in a karaton's guidelines, then it is a very arrogant person indeed who is prepared to give an opinion without either quoting his reference, or providing an argument to support the opinion.
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How about other "details names"? Is it forbidden too, if we call it "jejeran" in spite of hilt? or "warangka", in spite of "sheath"? Or "pamor", in spite of damascene? Or Malay term? and so on..
Thanks for your respond...
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