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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th February 2024, 11:11 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Pretty much the same as for Athanase David,...

Pretty much the same as for Athanase David, except that if I look at it as a whole I'd incline more to Lombok.

The reason for this variation is that Athanase's blade does have a couple of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th February 2024, 09:23 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 130,043
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I do incline to East Jawa for this blade, but...

I do incline to East Jawa for this blade, but there are insufficient indicators to be too definite about that. What I can be a little more definite about is that I can see nothing in the elements of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th February 2024, 08:24 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 130,043
Posted By A. G. Maisey
If I completely disregard the Balinese style...

If I completely disregard the Balinese style dress, I would be inclined to place this blade as East Jawa. Stylistically it echoes Mojopahit.

I doubt that it was made in Bali, but it could easily...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th February 2024, 08:17 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 599,309
Posted By A. G. Maisey
What David has said here is so, but there are...

What David has said here is so, but there are other reasons for a keris blade not fitting precisely into the wrongko.

A keris might have been given a new wrongko that came already made, bought...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th February 2024, 02:03 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 15,424
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Buy a little bottle of silver test from a...

Buy a little bottle of silver test from a jeweller's supply house, it is cheap, it lasts forever, you only need a tiny drop for testing, & it can prevent costly error.

Other names for mamas are...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th February 2024, 07:38 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 15,424
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thomas, has this hilt & scabbard been tested as...

Thomas, has this hilt & scabbard been tested as silver?

In the photos it looks very much like mamas.

I am inclined to date this pedang as Central Jawa, late Colonial era, say around 1870...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th January 2024, 10:23 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 6,109
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Pretty much so Kai, but there are elements in...

Pretty much so Kai, but there are elements in this blade that would indicate possibility of a Majapahit classification, this is NOT to say that it was necessarily made during the Majapahit era, but...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd January 2024, 09:17 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 30,728
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I recently parted with a Bugis style keris that...

I recently parted with a Bugis style keris that had the same method of gandar construction. It was the only one I had ever seen --- until I saw the picture of this one.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 17th January 2024, 04:19 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for bringing this to my attention...

Thank you for bringing this to my attention Gustav, I had been expecting somebody to mention this variation, & indeed, several people have already mentioned it to me, not in this forum, but in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th January 2024, 02:44 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
No David, the tejo kinurung thing goes back...

No David, the tejo kinurung thing goes back sometime in the 1980's, but since everybody believes that adeg wengkon is OK, I go with the flow, I don't see it as my job to give lessons with every...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th January 2024, 06:17 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 37,144
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I tend to disagree Kai, erosion and the necessary...

I tend to disagree Kai, erosion and the necessary coldwork has taken a part of the swirl, I feel that this swirl might be continued into the pesi, & and if that is so, then that pesi will have been...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th January 2024, 05:59 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Adeg Wengkon, according to what I was told by...

Adeg Wengkon, according to what I was told by those who were more knowledgeable than myself, is a misnomer, in fact, Adeg Wengkon should be called Tejo Kinurung, but that is only when the line of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th January 2024, 11:27 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 37,144
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I believe most people would classify the pamor in...

I believe most people would classify the pamor in the sorsoran as Kul Buntet.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th January 2024, 12:55 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have always found it useful to know what a word...

I have always found it useful to know what a word actually means when I try to understand something.

The words that Gustav has given us are worth a second look.

The word "tepi" means the edge,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2024, 12:41 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, when I saw it used as a name, & not as a...

David, when I saw it used as a name, & not as a descriptor, I googled it, and I got a lot of hits, so, within the collector community it now apparently in common usage.

My point in commenting at...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th January 2024, 08:27 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have not heard of pamor wengkon isen. It...

I have not heard of pamor wengkon isen.

It does not appear in EK, nor in KJ. In fact in KJ, HH calls pamor wengkon "pamor tepen", another term I have not heard used in Solo.

The word "isen"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th January 2024, 08:26 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
YS, I have the same publication, on P.24 we have...

YS, I have the same publication, on P.24 we have the straight version of Condong Campur (A), underneath that text in faint almost invisible print we have: (B)= keluk 7, hal. 54.

So we have a look...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th January 2024, 04:26 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yeah, I did --- get confused I mean. Like...

Yeah, I did --- get confused I mean.

Like they say:- speed kills.

Where the only pamor visible is the line that follows the edge, this is Pamor Wengkon, most pamor wengkon blades are made...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th January 2024, 08:57 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 33,531
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Kai, Jaga did say that it is kamardikan, so yeah,...

Kai, Jaga did say that it is kamardikan, so yeah, it is recent, & he did not claim that it is "high end", Javanese high end starts a lot further up the dollar ladder than I think this keris might...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th January 2024, 08:42 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 18,986
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jim, it is a random pattern, some people would...

Jim, it is a random pattern, some people would perhaps give it as kulit semangka (ngulit semongko) others would give it as wos wutah (beras wutah).

I favour wos wutah.

I doubt that much...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th January 2024, 10:19 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 18,986
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jim, I do appreciate your compliment, but in all...

Jim, I do appreciate your compliment, but in all honesty I must tell you that my memory sucks. Big time. I have difficulty remembering what I had for lunch yesterday. Ask me how much money I have in...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 4th January 2024, 08:27 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 18,986
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jim, there are two distinct periods that are...

Jim, there are two distinct periods that are named as Mataram. The first was the Early Classical period in Central Jawa, pre-dating the move of power to East Jawa. The second period of Mataram began...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd January 2024, 11:49 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 140,166
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Milandro, although sunggingan used on keris dress...

Milandro, although sunggingan used on keris dress is relatively uncommon in genuine Balinese work, it is not at all uncommon in Javanese keris dress, & also in keris dress that follows the style of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st January 2024, 12:18 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 37,144
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The foot of the atasan is the part of the atasan...

The foot of the atasan is the part of the atasan that projects below the body and accepts the tongues of the gandar, not all wrongkos have this foot.

The damage to the gandar is not at all unusual...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st December 2023, 03:47 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 140,166
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your good wishes GIO. May I...

Thank you for your good wishes GIO.

May I extend the same same good wishes for the coming year to you & your family, and to all of those who choose to join us here, a happy, healthy & prosperous...
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