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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 16th March 2007, 07:18 AM
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Posted By Alina
First of all, I never once made an incorrect...

First of all, I never once made an incorrect statement about sword #37. Secondly, my dismissal of the dating, isn't a dismissal, it's a complication. It's not cavalier, it's based on other evidence...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th March 2007, 06:16 AM
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Posted By Alina
Aside from #37, there is no evidence for an early...

Aside from #37, there is no evidence for an early Mamluk kilic. I find the attribution of Yucel's to be dubious, because the very nature of dating a sword is inexact. Just because a sword is...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th March 2007, 01:58 AM
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Posted By Alina
Excuse me, but NONE of the swords I posted are...

Excuse me, but NONE of the swords I posted are Mamluk in origin. ZERO. They're all Ottoman. Secondly, I didn't show a picture of Persian warriors fighting Mongols. The second image is Persians...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th March 2007, 11:21 PM
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Views: 51,334
Posted By Alina
To propose my own theory for the development of...

To propose my own theory for the development of the kilic, I think it came from the Mongols, through the Persians, and then on to the Ottomans and Mamluks. Here are a couple of miniatures which...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th March 2007, 09:16 PM
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Posted By Alina
I still don't have it! I'm a very patient person...

I still don't have it! I'm a very patient person when it comes to things like this, but I'm starting to get impatient. It was supposed to be done last June. Oh well. :shrug: On the bright side,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 14th March 2007, 09:23 AM
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Posted By Alina
It's really quite simple. The reign of Fatih...

It's really quite simple. The reign of Fatih Sultan Mehmet was 1444-1446, a takeover by his father, and then 1451-1481. 1444-1446 is the first half of the fifteenth century, is it not? There are...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 13th March 2007, 07:48 AM
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Views: 51,334
Posted By Alina
I disagree with this assessment of the history of...

I disagree with this assessment of the history of the kilic. For starters, the kilic you scanned from Yucel's book isn't dated to the 13th or early 14th century. Those dates are the dates of the...
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